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From: Elliott Roper on 14 Jan 2010 08:13
In article <1jcc4aa.4kpfddh8ch52N%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson
<dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:
<snip>
> > So who are the lazy programmers working for? Is it written by Apple, or have
> > Canon written the printer driver and just hung it on Apple's handles?
>
> The driver is supplied via Apple, so it is Apple's problem in my
> opinion.
>
> You have a Canon, I have a Brother, and they have the same bizarre text,
> so this is either bad sample code supplied by Apple, or common use of
> Apple-supplied library code. Either way, Apple's problem.

I'd go for the former.
Mine's a Xerox 8560. It does not show any "last updated" presumably
because it just this second asked the damn thing.

However:
It describes the items with humungously long strings, so the colours
and other important details disappear into the dots and misses out on
reporting I'm low on yellow even though the printer front panel is
correctly whinging about it.

Pah!

Maybe it is teamwork. I have canon cameras, and a scanner. Without
exception, all the software that comes with them is completely dire,
cheesy, ugly, dysfunctional and never updated. It is a good thing the
machines themselves are excellent.

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From: Martin S Taylor on 14 Jan 2010 17:37
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>> Odd, because this *is* a Canon inkjet. An MP610, to be precise.
>
> MP600 here! I had a black tank run out recently enough to be able to
> pop it back in, and I don't get a clickable Supplies button. How
> curious.

Odd. You're using SL? And downloading printer drivers from Apple
automatically?

MST

From: Martin S Taylor on 14 Jan 2010 17:41
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>> David Empson wrote
>>> I got the same with my Brother MFC-885CW. It can be accessed when the
>>> ink is NOT low by choosing Supply Levels from the menu in the middle of
>>> the print dialog.
>>
>> That's fair enough, as long as it doesn't show up in that virulent yellow.
>
> My MP600 shows the yellow exclamation triangle with a "Low ink"
> warning, below the actual black/black/yellow/magenta/cyan supply level
> bars. It's not clickable, and only shows up when the ink is actually
> low. There are no other features on the panel at all.
>
>>> Whoever wrote this thing was obviously a USAian. The "Last updated"
>>> field prints a US format date. Bloody lazy programmers.
>>
>> It's worse than that. My "Last updated" reads "Last updated today at
>> 1/14/10". So they can't tell the difference between the time and the date.
>
> Now, mine's in English - "Last updated 10/01/2010 09:46"
>
> How curious. "General" tab says the MP600 driver version is 10.19.0.0,
> is that a different series to yours? This one came with SL and I've
> not changed the driver myself.

Jaimie, I think you're looking in a different place. This isn't the "Print &
Fax" option (which can be reached from the Systems Preferences (and other
places too, I think). It's the regular print dialog box which pops up when
you go to print something.

MST

From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 14 Jan 2010 18:00
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:37:18 GMT, Martin S Taylor
<mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>>> Odd, because this *is* a Canon inkjet. An MP610, to be precise.
>>
>> MP600 here! I had a black tank run out recently enough to be able to
>> pop it back in, and I don't get a clickable Supplies button. How
>> curious.
>
>Odd. You're using SL? And downloading printer drivers from Apple
>automatically?

Yup - 10.6.2, and I've never needed to install the MP600's printer
driver myself.

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 14 Jan 2010 18:24
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:41:20 GMT, Martin S Taylor
<mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>>> David Empson wrote
>>>> I got the same with my Brother MFC-885CW. It can be accessed when the
>>>> ink is NOT low by choosing Supply Levels from the menu in the middle of
>>>> the print dialog.
>>>
>>> That's fair enough, as long as it doesn't show up in that virulent yellow.
>>
>> My MP600 shows the yellow exclamation triangle with a "Low ink"
>> warning, below the actual black/black/yellow/magenta/cyan supply level
>> bars. It's not clickable, and only shows up when the ink is actually
>> low. There are no other features on the panel at all.
>>
>>>> Whoever wrote this thing was obviously a USAian. The "Last updated"
>>>> field prints a US format date. Bloody lazy programmers.
>>>
>>> It's worse than that. My "Last updated" reads "Last updated today at
>>> 1/14/10". So they can't tell the difference between the time and the date.
>>
>> Now, mine's in English - "Last updated 10/01/2010 09:46"
>>
>> How curious. "General" tab says the MP600 driver version is 10.19.0.0,
>> is that a different series to yours? This one came with SL and I've
>> not changed the driver myself.
>
>Jaimie, I think you're looking in a different place. This isn't the "Print &
>Fax" option (which can be reached from the Systems Preferences (and other
>places too, I think). It's the regular print dialog box which pops up when
>you go to print something.

Aha - OK.

When I press apple-P, I do get the "(triangle) Low Ink". When I press
it I just get taken to the supply levels tab. No attempts to bounce me
to the Apple Store, but the "Last updated 01/10/10" is indeed in US
format. So not quite so bad as for you.

Cheers - Jaimie
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