From: tony cooper on 4 Jul 2010 22:00 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:47:56 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:35:31 -0400, in ><ild236t54s3pufhkqse7554m906cdec4qg(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper ><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >>On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:46:23 -0700, John Navas >><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:45:34 -0400, in >>><v67236ta22j9drfgdcbm3klui5sa11ggee(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >>><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:13:58 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>In article <gs2236t9l6h3oq0fsvq4mj4qi1vf5o5cmi(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >>>>><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I can't get my mind around this. Your "phone" has WiFi, GPS, music, >>>>>> and camera functions. A phone should have phone functions. Without >>>>>> the phone functions, it's an electronic device but it's not a phone. >>>>> >>>>>call it what you want, but the device is still functional if you don't >>>>>pay for phone service, other than the phone portion. >>>> >>>>That's like saying an automobile is still functional without an engine >>>>if all you want to do is sit in it and play the radio as long as the >>>>battery lasts. >>> >>>Terrible analogy. >>>That position is getting increasingly shaky. >>>Time to declare victory and move on. >> >>That's your style, John. Not mine. > >Flogging the horse long after death is your style. ;) You say as you continue to drag the horse out of the barn. All of my posts have been in reply to someone else's comment. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: nospam on 4 Jul 2010 22:01 In article <srd236hpqjbkeinb3nbjmh63hjht4pinqk(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >I find it really annoying to be standing in line and being forced to > >listen to the person next to you yammering away about their personal > >business. > > Are you also annoyed by overhearing conversations? > Must everyone be silent in public to make you happy? ;) straw man. > >> * much better displays > > > >Again, inconsequential. The idea is to speak to the other party, not > >to watch the screen. > > I disagree. Better display makes the phone easier for me to use. you didn't disagree last year when you insisted that a small phone with a small screen was better. now that you have a smartphone, you did a 180.
From: nospam on 4 Jul 2010 22:15 In article <vme2365c5aaoaecooe3rejdqflnbp6n799(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >the engine is a substantial part of the car's functionality. for some > >people, cellular is a small part of what a smartphone can do. > > Small, possibly, but usually essential. I note that no one has said > that they have a phone but don't use it as a telephone. i'll say that. > And, I don't > expect anyone to say this is the case unless they haven't paid the > bill and their phone service has been cut off. wrong. > It's pretty silly to try to make a case that phone service is not part > of a functioning phone when everyone has phone service on their phone. this is about smartphones, not a flipphone that does little else than make calls. iphones and android phones can do a *lot* without any phone service at all. in fact, apple and at&t have instructions on how to use an iphone without service as an ipod (i.e., when selling it to someone else). basically, you just remove the sim card. > >an iphone or android phone with no cellular plan is still functional on > >wifi, and when there's no wifi, as an address book, > > What do you do with an address book if you can't make calls? look up an address, maybe look up a number and give it to someone else. another example is an app can use the data contained in the address book, such as a mapping app can construct an ideal itinerary given a list of people to visit. all maps are local to the device, so there's not even a need for wifi. > > calendar, ebook > >reader, portable gaming device and countless other things. > > > >with pay as you go, you can pay for the occasional call, if needed. > > And you will. You will want phone service if you have a phone. not if i don't use the phone portion. as i said, there's a gazillion things an iphone can do that doesn't involve the phone part.
From: Peter on 4 Jul 2010 22:37 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:81b236hnqeko42fcti688l6evm22mafg7k(a)4ax.com... > > Phone conversations are fine. Long phone conversations are > unnecessary. Especially unnecessary are the conversations that run > long because the other person is driving, bored, and makes calls just > alleviate the boredom of being in traffic. > They are very annoying when some person is revealing the most intimate details of her latest sexual adventure on a commuter train. -- Peter
From: Peter on 4 Jul 2010 22:34
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:040720101827561859%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... > In article <mmc236tm7phe02fl8a8nirsb252hv20qg9(a)4ax.com>, John Navas > <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> Check out T-Mobile USA pricing, and you will see a price difference >> between service without a bundled phone and service with a bundled >> phone. If you own carrier isn't doing that, then it's pocketing the >> difference. Elementary, my dear Peter. ;) > > it depends how long you keep a phone. most people buy a new phone every > couple of years, which means it may actually be less expensive to get a > subsidized phone. > > and then there's the coverage issue. Coverage isn't important. Price is everything. <\end sarcastic tag> -- Peter |