From: tony cooper on 4 Jul 2010 21:31 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:45:40 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:53:07 -0400, in ><4c311690$1$5500$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter" ><peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: > >>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>news:gs2236t9l6h3oq0fsvq4mj4qi1vf5o5cmi(a)4ax.com... > >>> I can't get my mind around this. Your "phone" has WiFi, GPS, music, >>> and camera functions. A phone should have phone functions. Without >>> the phone functions, it's an electronic device but it's not a phone. >> >>There ya go! >>If I agree to take the phone & 3G service Verizon will subsidize the phone >>cost. > >It's effectively a time payment agreement, not a subsidy per se. It is a subsidy if the price of the phone is artificially low in order to get you to purchase the phone from that provider and to use their service. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: tony cooper on 4 Jul 2010 21:34 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:35:39 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <v67236ta22j9drfgdcbm3klui5sa11ggee(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper ><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >call it what you want, but the device is still functional if you don't >> >pay for phone service, other than the phone portion. >> >> That's like saying an automobile is still functional without an engine >> if all you want to do is sit in it and play the radio as long as the >> battery lasts. > >hardly. > >it's like saying you bought a car but don't pay for onstar. > How so? The automobile without an engine is not functional as a means of transportation. The automobile with an installed, but not operative, OnStar system is still functional as a means of transportation. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: nospam on 4 Jul 2010 21:35 In article <81b236hnqeko42fcti688l6evm22mafg7k(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >>I am particularly uninterested in a phone that uses one of those > >>things about the size of a banana that clips on the ear. > > > >That's a shame, because Bluetooth can be quite handy. > > I can't imagine how. People wear that banana thing all day and stand > there and talk into space when they get a call. I think that's rude. > When I get a phone call I move away from other people. I've never > thought it much trouble to pull out my phone. handsfree headsets while driving are now required in a lot of places, and even when not driving, it's very nice to not need to hold a phone up to one's ear. bluetooth headsets are also small and nowhere near the size of a banana. > I find it really annoying to be standing in line and being forced to > listen to the person next to you yammering away about their personal > business. The worst is those Nextel things where you have to listen > to *both* sides the conversation. that's etiquette, not bluetooth.
From: tony cooper on 4 Jul 2010 21:35 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:46:23 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:45:34 -0400, in ><v67236ta22j9drfgdcbm3klui5sa11ggee(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper ><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >>On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:13:58 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> >>wrote: >> >>>In article <gs2236t9l6h3oq0fsvq4mj4qi1vf5o5cmi(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >>><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I can't get my mind around this. Your "phone" has WiFi, GPS, music, >>>> and camera functions. A phone should have phone functions. Without >>>> the phone functions, it's an electronic device but it's not a phone. >>> >>>call it what you want, but the device is still functional if you don't >>>pay for phone service, other than the phone portion. >> >>That's like saying an automobile is still functional without an engine >>if all you want to do is sit in it and play the radio as long as the >>battery lasts. > >Terrible analogy. >That position is getting increasingly shaky. >Time to declare victory and move on. That's your style, John. Not mine. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: nospam on 4 Jul 2010 21:40
In article <9gd2365187f5j4holf34vc4ma6o38bn3j4(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >it's like saying you bought a car but don't pay for onstar. > > How so? The automobile without an engine is not functional as a means > of transportation. the engine is a substantial part of the car's functionality. for some people, cellular is a small part of what a smartphone can do. > The automobile with an installed, but not > operative, OnStar system is still functional as a means of > transportation. exactly. an iphone or android phone with no cellular plan is still functional on wifi, and when there's no wifi, as an address book, calendar, ebook reader, portable gaming device and countless other things. with pay as you go, you can pay for the occasional call, if needed. |