From: John Navas on
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:53:07 -0400, in
<4c311690$1$5500$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter"
<peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:

>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:gs2236t9l6h3oq0fsvq4mj4qi1vf5o5cmi(a)4ax.com...

>> I can't get my mind around this. Your "phone" has WiFi, GPS, music,
>> and camera functions. A phone should have phone functions. Without
>> the phone functions, it's an electronic device but it's not a phone.
>
>There ya go!
>If I agree to take the phone & 3G service Verizon will subsidize the phone
>cost.

It's effectively a time payment agreement, not a subsidy per se.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:45:34 -0400, in
<v67236ta22j9drfgdcbm3klui5sa11ggee(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper
<tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:13:58 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <gs2236t9l6h3oq0fsvq4mj4qi1vf5o5cmi(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper
>><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't get my mind around this. Your "phone" has WiFi, GPS, music,
>>> and camera functions. A phone should have phone functions. Without
>>> the phone functions, it's an electronic device but it's not a phone.
>>
>>call it what you want, but the device is still functional if you don't
>>pay for phone service, other than the phone portion.
>
>That's like saying an automobile is still functional without an engine
>if all you want to do is sit in it and play the radio as long as the
>battery lasts.

Terrible analogy.
That position is getting increasingly shaky.
Time to declare victory and move on.
;)

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: Peter on
"John Navas" <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:doa2369qrchpuhirc4ekf6h1ccql46828n(a)4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:53:07 -0400, in
> <4c311690$1$5500$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter"
> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:gs2236t9l6h3oq0fsvq4mj4qi1vf5o5cmi(a)4ax.com...
>
>>> I can't get my mind around this. Your "phone" has WiFi, GPS, music,
>>> and camera functions. A phone should have phone functions. Without
>>> the phone functions, it's an electronic device but it's not a phone.
>>
>>There ya go!
>>If I agree to take the phone & 3G service Verizon will subsidize the phone
>>cost.
>
> It's effectively a time payment agreement, not a subsidy per se.
>


Not at all. the price for the service is that same, regardless of which
phone I use.

--
Peter

From: John Navas on
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 20:56:48 -0400, in
<4c312dfa$2$5542$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter"
<peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:doa2369qrchpuhirc4ekf6h1ccql46828n(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:53:07 -0400, in
>> <4c311690$1$5500$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter"
>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:gs2236t9l6h3oq0fsvq4mj4qi1vf5o5cmi(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>>> I can't get my mind around this. Your "phone" has WiFi, GPS, music,
>>>> and camera functions. A phone should have phone functions. Without
>>>> the phone functions, it's an electronic device but it's not a phone.
>>>
>>>There ya go!
>>>If I agree to take the phone & 3G service Verizon will subsidize the phone
>>>cost.
>>
>> It's effectively a time payment agreement, not a subsidy per se.
>
>Not at all. the price for the service is that same, regardless of which
>phone I use.

That's because the carrier is overcharging you for service without a
bundled phone. Suggest you consider a more customer friendly carrier
like T-Mobile.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:00:31 -0700, in
<0jb236dj2psp20e9k8kdfd3jt48hg80bj9(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 20:56:48 -0400, in
><4c312dfa$2$5542$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter"
><peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:doa2369qrchpuhirc4ekf6h1ccql46828n(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:53:07 -0400, in
>>> <4c311690$1$5500$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter"
>>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:gs2236t9l6h3oq0fsvq4mj4qi1vf5o5cmi(a)4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>> I can't get my mind around this. Your "phone" has WiFi, GPS, music,
>>>>> and camera functions. A phone should have phone functions. Without
>>>>> the phone functions, it's an electronic device but it's not a phone.
>>>>
>>>>There ya go!
>>>>If I agree to take the phone & 3G service Verizon will subsidize the phone
>>>>cost.
>>>
>>> It's effectively a time payment agreement, not a subsidy per se.
>>
>>Not at all. the price for the service is that same, regardless of which
>>phone I use.
>
>That's because the carrier is overcharging you for service without a
>bundled phone. Suggest you consider a more customer friendly carrier
>like T-Mobile.

I meant: T-Mobile USA.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams