From: John Navas on 5 Jul 2010 01:58 On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:26:00 -0400, in <v3r236te2rnkaaf2arsh3n9iket99h41h1(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida I keep wondering about Dawn. ;) -- John "We have met the enemy and he is us" -Pogo
From: John Navas on 5 Jul 2010 02:20 On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:26:00 -0400, in <v3r236te2rnkaaf2arsh3n9iket99h41h1(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:13:57 -0700, John Navas ><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>>>So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) >>> >>>It's always been about that. ... >> >>Roger that. > >Semantics and labels are important. If you want someone to hand you a >knife, you don't ask for a fork. You use the right label. Oh hell, I know I shouldn't do this, but ... You should have thought that one through in advance -- a fork is still a fork even when it's not being used for its intended purpose, likewise a knife. My daughter once made a science project with a couple of forks, and they were still called forks. Likewise a phone is still a phone even when not making calls. The name is what it is, not what it's currently being used for. By your logic a tree falling in the forest with nobody around not only would be silent, but not even a tree. ;) NOW HAVE THE LAST WORD, AND THEN PLEASE LET US BURY THE HORSE!!! ;) -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: nospam on 5 Jul 2010 02:23 In article <l2u236hutf436goms8pr3g3mv59pc4pdqn(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >Semantics and labels are important. If you want someone to hand you a > >knife, you don't ask for a fork. You use the right label. > > Oh hell, I know I shouldn't do this, but ... > > You should have thought that one through in advance -- > a fork is still a fork even when it's not being used for its intended > purpose, likewise a knife. My daughter once made a science project with > a couple of forks, and they were still called forks. Likewise a phone > is still a phone even when not making calls. The name is what it is, > not what it's currently being used for. wow. you just can't ever admit you're wrong, can you.
From: J. Clarke on 5 Jul 2010 07:35 On 7/5/2010 12:30 AM, tony cooper wrote: > On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:16:31 -0700, nospam<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> > wrote: > >> In article<fcl236pkbdr20l179bqh8vib0hc9otgamc(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> And the main purpose of a phone is to make and receive telephone >>> calls. >> >> except this isn't just a phone, it's a multipurpose device. the phone >> is one of many functions. some people use the phone part a lot, others >> don't use it much at all. > > "I don't use the phone much" is quite different from "I don't have > phone service". I'm not discussing the amount of time spent on > various features. I'm saying that if it doesn't have phone service > it's silly to call it a phone. At best it's an unplugged phone. I guess that if one really wants a PDA one could buy a Treo or the like with no service, but it seems an expensive way to get one.
From: J. Clarke on 5 Jul 2010 07:31
On 7/5/2010 12:59 AM, tony cooper wrote: > On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:37:22 -0700, nospam<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> > wrote: > >> In article<pvn236thjol16jjbifu1sahm5airhk2ng6(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>>> So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) >>> >>> It's always been about that. If it doesn't have phone service, it >>> shouldn't be called a phone. >> >> call it whatever you want. it's still useful without phone service. > > I don't argue with that. All those wonderful things you've listed are > certainly useful for some people. > > Me, I want a phone. > > A few months ago I was called in on a three week project to grade > school standard achievement tests for another state. I smoke, and > there's a gazebo-like building where we smokers were segregated on our > breaks. > > One of the other smokers had this device that did all the things > you've talked about. (And functioned as a phone) He showed me this > screen where all of his frequent contacts showed up on the screen as > little blue dots in their present location. Some sort of GPS > function, I suppose. > > I asked him how he used this feature. He said he never had, but it > was there for him when he wanted it. Now that's fine for him, but if > I wanted to know where my wife was at any given time I'd call her on > my old phone-calls-only Nokia and ask her. Seems like it would serve > the same purpose. > > I can think of a use for it, though. If someone had a > girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband that they suspected of cheating, the > blue dot would give them away if it was matched with another blue dot. Nervous nellies with kids use it to spy on their kids' movements. > I don't worry about that with my wife, though. I would just worry > when her blue dot was at Neiman-Marcus or Nordstrom's or > Bloomingdale's. > > |