From: Peter on 5 Jul 2010 08:58 "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:i0shck011v(a)news4.newsguy.com... > On 7/5/2010 12:30 AM, tony cooper wrote: >> On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:16:31 -0700, nospam<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> In article<fcl236pkbdr20l179bqh8vib0hc9otgamc(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >>> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> And the main purpose of a phone is to make and receive telephone >>>> calls. >>> >>> except this isn't just a phone, it's a multipurpose device. the phone >>> is one of many functions. some people use the phone part a lot, others >>> don't use it much at all. >> >> "I don't use the phone much" is quite different from "I don't have >> phone service". I'm not discussing the amount of time spent on >> various features. I'm saying that if it doesn't have phone service >> it's silly to call it a phone. > > At best it's an unplugged phone. > > I guess that if one really wants a PDA one could buy a Treo or the like > with no service, but it seems an expensive way to get one. I have an old PDA that had handwriting recognition. With the help of a CF card it worked as a fine GPS.. If it had phone capability I would have continued using it. -- Peter
From: Peter on 5 Jul 2010 09:01 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:pvn236thjol16jjbifu1sahm5airhk2ng6(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:19:27 -0700, John Navas >>So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) > > It's always been about that. If it doesn't have phone service, it > shouldn't be called a phone. > What do I call my antique gum ball machine. It doesn't have gum ball service. What do I call my old coffee maker, that I have discontinued the coffee service for. (Please don't say junk) -- Peter
From: Peter on 5 Jul 2010 09:05 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:2eo236lha9arr3og13llfvm8p4t94qke3n(a)4ax.com... > > > I don't worry about that with my wife, though. I would just worry > when her blue dot was at Neiman-Marcus or Nordstrom's or > Bloomingdale's. > Reminds me of that story about the individual who didn't report his stolen credit card. He said the thief spent less than his wife. -- Peter
From: tony cooper on 5 Jul 2010 09:31 On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:01:58 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >news:pvn236thjol16jjbifu1sahm5airhk2ng6(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:19:27 -0700, John Navas > >>>So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) >> >> It's always been about that. If it doesn't have phone service, it >> shouldn't be called a phone. >> > >What do I call my antique gum ball machine. It doesn't have gum ball >service. "Decor", or if you want to be a bit fancier: "d�cor". >What do I call my old coffee maker, that I have discontinued the coffee >service for. >(Please don't say junk) "Victim of budget slashing" if it's an office machine and you are now too cheap to furnish free coffee for the staff. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter on 5 Jul 2010 09:08
"John Navas" <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:l2u236hutf436goms8pr3g3mv59pc4pdqn(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:26:00 -0400, in > <v3r236te2rnkaaf2arsh3n9iket99h41h1(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper > <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >>On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:13:57 -0700, John Navas >><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >>>>>So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) >>>> >>>>It's always been about that. ... >>> >>>Roger that. >> >>Semantics and labels are important. If you want someone to hand you a >>knife, you don't ask for a fork. You use the right label. > > Oh hell, I know I shouldn't do this, but ... > > You should have thought that one through in advance -- > a fork is still a fork even when it's not being used for its intended > purpose, likewise a knife. My daughter once made a science project with > a couple of forks, and they were still called forks. Likewise a phone > is still a phone even when not making calls. The name is what it is, > not what it's currently being used for. > > By your logic a tree falling in the forest with nobody around not only > would be silent, but not even a tree. ;) > > NOW HAVE THE LAST WORD, AND THEN PLEASE LET US BURY THE HORSE!!! ;) > Uhm! Is there someone forcing you to answer? -- Peter |