From: John Navas on 5 Jul 2010 10:19 On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:35:48 -0400, in <i0shck011v(a)news4.newsguy.com>, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: >On 7/5/2010 12:30 AM, tony cooper wrote: >> On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:16:31 -0700, nospam<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> In article<fcl236pkbdr20l179bqh8vib0hc9otgamc(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper >>> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> And the main purpose of a phone is to make and receive telephone >>>> calls. >>> >>> except this isn't just a phone, it's a multipurpose device. the phone >>> is one of many functions. some people use the phone part a lot, others >>> don't use it much at all. >> >> "I don't use the phone much" is quite different from "I don't have >> phone service". I'm not discussing the amount of time spent on >> various features. I'm saying that if it doesn't have phone service >> it's silly to call it a phone. > >At best it's an unplugged phone. > >I guess that if one really wants a PDA one could buy a Treo or the like >with no service, but it seems an expensive way to get one. The game changer is Wi-Fi, which makes smartphones connected devices even without phone service. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: John Navas on 5 Jul 2010 10:20 On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:31:15 -0400, in <i0shck011u(a)news4.newsguy.com>, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: >On 7/5/2010 12:59 AM, tony cooper wrote: >> One of the other smokers had this device that did all the things >> you've talked about. (And functioned as a phone) He showed me this >> screen where all of his frequent contacts showed up on the screen as >> little blue dots in their present location. Some sort of GPS >> function, I suppose. >> >> I asked him how he used this feature. He said he never had, but it >> was there for him when he wanted it. Now that's fine for him, but if >> I wanted to know where my wife was at any given time I'd call her on >> my old phone-calls-only Nokia and ask her. Seems like it would serve >> the same purpose. >> >> I can think of a use for it, though. If someone had a >> girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband that they suspected of cheating, the >> blue dot would give them away if it was matched with another blue dot. > >Nervous nellies with kids use it to spy on their kids' movements. Likewise responsible parents who care about the safety of their kids. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Allen on 5 Jul 2010 10:59 Peter wrote: > "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message > news:713136l8r26b1p2ue9brjkb6g55qm162nf(a)4ax.com... >> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:08:33 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> >> wrote: >> : "John McWilliams" <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >> : news:i0l22e$vfm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> : > Vance wrote: >> : >> On Jul 1, 10:32 pm, Outing Trolls is FUN! <o...(a)trollouters.org> >> wrote: >> : >>> Counting the sales of cell-phones as cameras is like counting >> the sales >> : >>> of >> : >>> microwave-ovens as clocks. >> : >> >> : >> A point for the Troll! Always give credit where and when due. >> : > >> : > Yes, a good'un. My cameras, and cars, TVs and telephones also have >> clocks >> : > in them. Over clocked I am! >> : >> : >> : IOW you never actually know hat time it is. >> >> My most reliable time source is still my old quartz Seiko (never off >> by more >> than a few seconds a month). But the next best is my cell phone, >> because the >> service provider downloads the time. It doesn't read in seconds, but I >> don't >> have to worry about changing time zones or going on or off of daylight >> time. >> ;^) > > > It was a reference to the old saw: > "A man with one clock always know what time it is. A man with two clocks > is never sure." :-) > Or, "A stopped clock is right twice a day". Allen
From: Peter on 5 Jul 2010 11:00 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:frm33654fg0vq0tomb1f51ke6r9d1c45cl(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:01:58 -0400, "Peter" > <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: > >>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>news:pvn236thjol16jjbifu1sahm5airhk2ng6(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:19:27 -0700, John Navas >> >>>>So are you now down to arguing semantics and labels? ;) >>> >>> It's always been about that. If it doesn't have phone service, it >>> shouldn't be called a phone. >>> >> >>What do I call my antique gum ball machine. It doesn't have gum ball >>service. > > "Decor", or if you want to be a bit fancier: "d�cor". > >>What do I call my old coffee maker, that I have discontinued the coffee >>service for. >>(Please don't say junk) > > "Victim of budget slashing" if it's an office machine and you are now > too cheap to furnish free coffee for the staff. > <G> -- Peter
From: John Navas on 5 Jul 2010 11:09
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 09:59:56 -0500, in <YuGdna_d_I_sbqzRnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Allen <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote: >Peter wrote: >> It was a reference to the old saw: >> "A man with one clock always know what time it is. A man with two clocks >> is never sure." :-) >> >Or, "A stopped clock is right twice a day". Unless it's on military time. ;) -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement] |