From: Robert Coe on 4 Jul 2010 09:32 On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:08:33 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: : "John McWilliams" <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote in message : news:i0l22e$vfm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... : > Vance wrote: : >> On Jul 1, 10:32 pm, Outing Trolls is FUN! <o...(a)trollouters.org> wrote: : >>> Counting the sales of cell-phones as cameras is like counting the sales : >>> of : >>> microwave-ovens as clocks. : >> : >> A point for the Troll! Always give credit where and when due. : > : > Yes, a good'un. My cameras, and cars, TVs and telephones also have clocks : > in them. Over clocked I am! : : : IOW you never actually know hat time it is. My most reliable time source is still my old quartz Seiko (never off by more than a few seconds a month). But the next best is my cell phone, because the service provider downloads the time. It doesn't read in seconds, but I don't have to worry about changing time zones or going on or off of daylight time. ;^) Bob
From: Robert Coe on 4 Jul 2010 10:37 On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 21:44:21 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: : On 2010-07-03 21:34:35 -0700, John A. <john(a)nowhere.invalid> said: : : > On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 21:33:17 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> : > wrote: : > : >> In article <8i2036daaj5pqc78j3abbrpu1n9kjpuhje(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper : >> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: : >> : >>>> That said, I paid $180 for my Android phone with no contract or subsidy, : >>>> considerably more for my compact digital camera. : >>> : >>> Your phone is no more than a paperweight if you do not have - and pay : >>> for - a carrier. You will pay someone something to use that phone. : >>> Every month. : >> : >> it depends on the phone. some are very functional without service, they : >> just can't make or receive calls. : >> : >> for example, an iphone without service is basically an ipod with a : >> camera and gps. : > : > Aren't there some phones that can do VOIP via WIFI? : : Yup, I can use Skype with my Android via WiFi or (for now)3G with Verizon. : GPS, Email, web browser, all work without issue. How complete is its Wi-Fi capability? Can it, for example, handle WPA2 and get authenticated by a RADIUS server? To get past the RADIUS servers in our shop, it would have to be a member of an Active Directory domain. Even on my home network, which uses WPA2-PSK, it would have to be able to supply the pre-shared key. Bob
From: John Navas on 4 Jul 2010 11:16 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 00:20:25 -0400, in <8i2036daaj5pqc78j3abbrpu1n9kjpuhje(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 18:57:40 -0700, John Navas ><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>That said, I paid $180 for my Android phone with no contract or subsidy, >>considerably more for my compact digital camera. > >Your phone is no more than a paperweight if you do not have - and pay >for - a carrier. You will pay someone something to use that phone. >Every month. It actually works quite nicely on Wi-Fi, even for phone calls. >There is no recurring charge after the initial outlay for a camera. There's no recurring charge for the camera in my phone either. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on 4 Jul 2010 11:17 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 08:27:00 -0400, in <6cv0365oc0pim2gktn0cvuuoc043omkce9(a)4ax.com>, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 23:03:59 -0700, Savageduck ><savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: > >>It has proved handy to have Skype available via WiFi approximately 4 >>times when I didn't have my laptop nearby, when not at home. > >For what purpose? I use Skype to talk to my brother in Denmark. It's >great when calling overseas at no charge. I make all US calls for >free on my regular phone (Verizon). For free?! Really?! -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on 4 Jul 2010 11:22
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 01:24:18 -0500, in <c5udnf473PSPtK3RnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Rich <none(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >Sorry, it was long so I didn't read it carefully enough. But I should >have. I congratulate your daughter on getting pictures of kids with her >P&S's since it is without doubt the number one reason I've seen people >use (who have kids) as to why they move to DSLRs, to take pictures of >kids, in motion. Then they've been sold a bill of goods, because dSLRs are no more (and arguably less) well suited to that then compact digitals. "The best camera is the one you have with you [out and ready]". The compact digital, unlike a dSLR, easily remains in the purse. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams |