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From: Gordon Darling on 23 Feb 2010 20:38 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:31:56 +0000, Gordon Darling wrote: > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:29:06 +0000, Bear Bottoms wrote: > > <snip> > >> I've done the best kind of research that can be done with Magic Jack. >> I've had and used one for over three years. You can't touch that kind >> of research. It is a great cheap versatile portable telephone you can >> take with you and use anywhere in the world for less than $30 per year. >> Eat your heart out. > > With the bad publicity they have had and the ridiculous EULA I wouldn't > touch > it! > > YMMV And having said that, if it works for you great. After all, computers, operating systems and programs are only tools to get a job done. Gordon -- ox·y·mo·ron n. pl. ox·y·mo·ra or ox·y·mo·rons A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in Microsoft Security, Microsoft Help and Microsoft Works.
From: Gordon Darling on 23 Feb 2010 20:42 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:27:37 -0600, »Q« wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:34:07 +0000, Gordon wrote: >> From the EULA. >> >> "You also understand and agree that use of the magicJack device and >> Software will include advertisements and that these advertisements are >> necessary for the magicJack device to work ... Our computers may >> analyze the phone numbers you call in order to improve the relevance of >> the ads" > > Ah, the 50K judgment against them couldn't have happened to a nicer > company. I wonder how many other ways they screw their customers, but I > don't wonder enough to bother searching. As I said to Bear "If it works for you great. After all, computers, operating systems and programs are only tools to get a job done." However the EULA and the bad publicity is a big turn off me. Regards Gordon -- ox·y·mo·ron n. pl. ox·y·mo·ra or ox·y·mo·rons A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in Microsoft Security, Microsoft Help and Microsoft Works.
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Feb 2010 20:45 From: "Gordon Darling" <me(a)privacy.net> | With the bad publicity they have had and the ridiculous EULA I wouldn't | touch | it! | YMMV I wouldn't have touched it before because if it seems to goog, there must be a catch and left it at that. Now I have good reasons to have been suspicious and I am proud of my decision to avoid this product/service. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Feb 2010 20:53 From: "Bear Bottoms" <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in | news:hm208801ske(a)news3.newsguy.com: >> Then you must also accept the rules of the hidden EULA >> http://www.magicjack.com/tos/ >> "Advertisements will be served through the magicPageT Software or the >> magicJack softphone - the software/softphone attempts to serve local >> advertisements and classifieds using a completely automated process >> that enables us to effectively target dynamically changing content. >> Our computers may analyze the phone numbers you call and your >> registration information in order to improve the relevance of the >> ads." | Nothing more than Google, MS or any number of other companies do. It | isn't a big deal at all. Anyone on the web gives up as much information. >> As well as acceipting ONLY aribitration as set by clause 24. >> But, you don't know that BEFORE you sign up as there is no direct link >> to the TOS from the home page or the pages used to signup for the >> service. | I have a phone. I don't need arbitration services. Good grief, talk about | making a mountain out of a mole hill. You just don't get it :-( -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: »Q« on 23 Feb 2010 20:45
In <news:Xns9D28C4AE7AE4Abearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247>, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: > Of course if you wish to avoid the company based on the information > posted here, fine. That's a very good idea. |