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From: Phillip Jones on 18 Apr 2010 20:48
Bitzer wrote:
> Running Mail 4.2 (1078) under OS X 10.6.3 and can't find a way to get a
> return receipt for email I send. Am I missing something here?

not sure if return receipts are available. they are in Thunderbird or
SeaMonkey. a Lot of email clients shun the use of return receipts. many
people find them to put it mildly obnoxious. I find them okay for
certain circumstances. I have gotten a few for off the wall stuff. I've
simple choose to ignore. unlike some email client that you have no
choice. You have choice to send acceptance, or to ignore. if you accept
you can save the return receipts in separate folder from message or not.

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From: Jolly Roger on 20 Apr 2010 14:32
In article
<alpine.OSX.2.00.1004200959070.30443(a)olympe.ewd.goldmark.org>,
Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody(a)goldmark.org> wrote:

> email administrators deliberately block these things to discourage
> their use. This is because they could potentially double email traffic
> for very little gain.

Absolutely.

I know people who work at the same large corporation as me who CC
themselves in every single message they send because they want to know
if a message delivery is delayed by the email server. What a waste of
bandwidth!!


> So I've done my duty of discouraging you. Now if you want to go ahead,
> you should look for Mail plug-ins which add custom headers or specifically
> the headers for delivery receipts. If no such thing exists, you may have
> to use a different mail client.

Actually, all he needs to do is Google it. Like I said, I've done it in
the past. You can add the headers to sent messages with a simple visit
to Mail's preferences. If you want to handle *incoming* receipt
requests, that can be done with Applescript mail rules.

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From: P.J.Meisch on 19 Apr 2010 02:17
Am 19.04.10 04:20, schrieb Kir�ly:

> I would *never* say yes to any such
> request, because I consider it nobody's business but my own what I do
> with my e-mail.
>

I totally agree with that, and furthermore: In the last weeks with some
spam emails in my business account (running from an exchange server),
when I delete a spam email, I get a popup telling me that the sender
wants a confirmation sent that I _deleted_ the message. Seems they found
a new way to verify that an email address is valid.

So I _never_ send receipts for whatever I do with my email.

greetings
P.J.


From: Jolly Roger on 19 Apr 2010 10:14
In article <4bcbf55e$0$6760$9b4e6d93(a)newsspool3.arcor-online.net>,
"P.J.Meisch" <news03(a)fentakyam.net> wrote:

> Am 19.04.10 04:20, schrieb Kir�ly:
>
> > I would *never* say yes to any such
> > request, because I consider it nobody's business but my own what I do
> > with my e-mail.
> >
>
> I totally agree with that, and furthermore: In the last weeks with some
> spam emails in my business account (running from an exchange server),
> when I delete a spam email, I get a popup telling me that the sender
> wants a confirmation sent that I _deleted_ the message. Seems they found
> a new way to verify that an email address is valid.

Microsoft Outlook is one of the last email clients that actually goes
out of its way to support things like Return Receipt; so that's not
surprising.

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JR
From: Jeffrey Goldberg on 20 Apr 2010 11:18
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010, Bitzer wrote:

> So you can't find it either, eh?

Apple Mail does not implement this. It shouldn't be hard to write a Mail
plug-in that adds this (or just custom headers); so in all likelihood
someone has written one (but I haven't looked).

I understand the frustration of asking about how to do something and
getting told that you shouldn't want to do that something. But as a
former email server administrator, I feel obligated to discourage you from
trying to set delivery receipts. So here goes...

First everything that JR said (which I won't repeat).

Second email administrators deliberately block these things to discourage
their use. This is because they could potentially double email traffic
for very little gain. The other thing is that we know that the world is
filled with broken auto-responders. Proper auto-responders will behave
correctly to "bounce" messages (as these things technically are), but
there are enough broken auto-responders out there (and particularly at
those sites that like using delivery receipts) that these can cause mail
loops.

So I've done my duty of discouraging you. Now if you want to go ahead,
you should look for Mail plug-ins which add custom headers or specifically
the headers for delivery receipts. If no such thing exists, you may have
to use a different mail client.

Cheers,

-j

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