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From: M-M on 20 Apr 2010 11:41
In article <hqfur2$4u6$1(a)news.albasani.net>, Bitzer <bitzer(a)spam.net>
wrote:

> Running Mail 4.2 (1078) under OS X 10.6.3 and can't find a way to get a
> return receipt for email I send. Am I missing something here?


I just look in my sent mail folder. If it's there, I sent it.

:)

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From: Bitzer on 20 Apr 2010 12:40
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010, Bitzer wrote:
>
>> So you can't find it either, eh?
>
> Apple Mail does not implement this. It shouldn't be hard to write a
> Mail plug-in that adds this (or just custom headers); so in all
> likelihood someone has written one (but I haven't looked).
>
> I understand the frustration of asking about how to do something and
> getting told that you shouldn't want to do that something. But as a
> former email server administrator, I feel obligated to discourage you
> from trying to set delivery receipts. So here goes...
>
> First everything that JR said (which I won't repeat).
>
> Second email administrators deliberately block these things to
> discourage their use. This is because they could potentially double
> email traffic for very little gain. The other thing is that we know
> that the world is filled with broken auto-responders. Proper
> auto-responders will behave correctly to "bounce" messages (as these
> things technically are), but there are enough broken auto-responders out
> there (and particularly at those sites that like using delivery
> receipts) that these can cause mail loops.
>
> So I've done my duty of discouraging you. Now if you want to go ahead,
> you should look for Mail plug-ins which add custom headers or
> specifically the headers for delivery receipts. If no such thing
> exists, you may have to use a different mail client.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -j
>


OK, y'all have convinced me. I'm giving up the idea! Thanks for the
inputs...
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kir=E1ly?= on 19 Apr 2010 13:12
P.J.Meisch <news03(a)fentakyam.net> wrote:
> Seems they found a new way to verify that an email address is valid.

Remote images. Spammers generate a 1x1 pixel white or transparent
image, upload it to a server, tag it with your e-mail address, and link
to it in a HTML formatted e-mail sent to you. When you open the e-mail,
your e-mail client loads the remote image. The spammer then knows by
the access to that file on their server, that you have opened the
message.

To foil them, make sure you have remote image display turned off (Mail
prefs -> Viewing).

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From: Jamie Kahn Genet on 20 Apr 2010 21:01
Bitzer <bitzer(a)spam.net> wrote:

> Running Mail 4.2 (1078) under OS X 10.6.3 and can't find a way to get a
> return receipt for email I send. Am I missing something here?

Nope, thank the powers that be.
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From: Jeffrey Goldberg on 21 Apr 2010 01:39
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Kir�ly wrote:

> P.J.Meisch <news03(a)fentakyam.net> wrote:
>> Seems they found a new way to verify that an email address is valid.
>
> Remote images. Spammers generate a 1x1 pixel white or transparent
> image, upload it to a server, tag it with your e-mail address, and link
> to it in a HTML formatted e-mail sent to you. When you open the e-mail,
> your e-mail client loads the remote image. The spammer then knows by
> the access to that file on their server, that you have opened the
> message.

Exactly. These are sometimes called "web bugs"

> To foil them, make sure you have remote image display turned off (Mail
> prefs -> Viewing).

I enthusiastically agree.

-j

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