From: Gordon on
Conor wrote:

> In article <20100115091557.2116.51145.XPN(a)gordon-laptop>, Gordon says...
>>
>> Conor wrote:
>>
>> > Excel is the only thing that counts.
>>
>> No - Excel is the only thing that businesses have been conned into
>> using...
>
> Not really. When it came out, there wasn't anything that equalled it. It
> won based on its own merits.
>

Just shows how LITTLE you know.
Lotus 123 was as good as Excel if not better. "Scenarios" were excellent
- far better than anything Excel still has.
MS sneaked Excel in by offering FREE copies of Office with server OSs.
From: Gordon on
Conor wrote:

> In article <pan.2010.01.14.22.38.12.518987(a)stovell.nospam.org.uk>, Phil
> Stovell says...
>
>> The UK Government used to have (may still have) a policy of only using
>> software that is ISO standards compliant. OO is, I'm not sure about MSO.
>
> UK Govt runs on MSO.
>

Which is NOT ISO certified.
From: Gordon on
Conor wrote:


>>
> It doesn't have to. MSO is the defacto standard,

No - it's what MS has imposed. It's not any sort of "standard" at all.




From: JEDIDIAH on
On 2010-01-15, Gordon <gbplinux(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Conor wrote:
>
>> In article <20100115091557.2116.51145.XPN(a)gordon-laptop>, Gordon says...
>>>
>>> Conor wrote:
>>>
>>> > Excel is the only thing that counts.
>>>
>>> No - Excel is the only thing that businesses have been conned into
>>> using...
>>
>> Not really. When it came out, there wasn't anything that equalled it. It
>> won based on its own merits.
>>
>
> Just shows how LITTLE you know.
> Lotus 123 was as good as Excel if not better. "Scenarios" were excellent
> - far better than anything Excel still has.
> MS sneaked Excel in by offering FREE copies of Office with server OSs.

....I wouldn't be surprised if the last DOS version of 123 was more than
what most people would ever need (with notable exception of the GUI being
bolted on top of course).

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From: RonB on
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:06:38 +0000, Gordon wrote:

> Just shows how LITTLE you know.
> Lotus 123 was as good as Excel if not better. "Scenarios" were excellent
> - far better than anything Excel still has. MS sneaked Excel in by
> offering FREE copies of Office with server OSs.

And, unfortunately, Lotus was distracted for a long time with the lawsuit
against Borland.

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RonB
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