From: Erik Funkenbusch on
On 15 Jan 2010 09:14:53 GMT, Gordon wrote:

> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
>> On 15 Jan 2010 07:47:10 GMT, Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> I've also worked for a large number of small to medium enterprises as
>>> well - from a 4-man Advertising Agency through to importing mineral
>>> water, amd THEY didn't use macros or VBA either.
>>> Had no need to....
>>
>> How would you know? By your own admission you apparently don't stay at any
>> of your jobs long enough to know something like that, since you say you've
>> worked for "A large number of small to medium enterprises", unless you're
>> able to time travel or clone yourself, and you've got a limited time window
>> in which you could have worked for such companies (since about 1990 or 20
>> years) fitting a "large number" of companies means you're not at any of
>> them very long.
>>
>> Or perhaps you were exagerating?
>>
>> Nah.. that can't be it.
>
> Because I was the Systems Accountant. And NO-BODY stays in the same job
> for more than a few years these days, certainly not in the fastest
> moving sectors, and because this is over a time span of TWENTY
> YEARS.....
>
> I presume you are still at your clerk's job from when you left school...

if you switch jobs every 2 years, that's only 20 companies. I wouldn't
call that "a large number".

The issue here is that you appear to be exagerating.
From: Hadron on
Gordon <gbplinux(a)gmail.com> writes:

> Conor wrote:
>
>> Excel is the only thing that counts.
>
> No - Excel is the only thing that businesses have been conned into
> using...

What features of excel do you, as a systems accountant unable to keep a
job down, feel it is missing compared to say the OO offering? How were
these features in OO 15 years ago when people first started using Excel
seriously? How well do Excel the plugins developed over years work in OO
for the small to large businessman?
From: Gordon on
Hadron wrote:

> Gordon <gbplinux(a)gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Conor wrote:
>>
>>> Excel is the only thing that counts.
>>
>> No - Excel is the only thing that businesses have been conned into
>> using...
>
> What features of excel do you, as a systems accountant unable to keep a
> job down, feel it is missing compared to say the OO offering? How were
> these features in OO 15 years ago when people first started using Excel
> seriously?

Quite capable of keeping jobs down thank you very much.
Your comprehension skills, as usual are completely lacking.
Please quote the post where I said the Excel lacks functions that OO
has.
You also need a history lesson.
The reason Excel is predominant is that at the beginning, MS included
free versions of Office with various Server OSs.
At the time there were many other perfectly capable spreadsheet
applications around - Lotus 123, Multiplan, to name just two. Because
MS provided FREE copies of Office, naturrally they got used, and thus
the lock-in began.

> How well do Excel the plugins developed over years work in OO
> for the small to large businessman?

Err WHAT "plugins"?

Most small businesses don't USE plugins - they don't need to.

From: Gordon on
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:


> The issue here is that you appear to be exagerating.

Your spell check is broken.

Exaggerating? Only your ignorance - if that's possible...
From: Hadron on
Gordon <gbplinux(a)gmail.com> writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Gordon <gbplinux(a)gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Conor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Excel is the only thing that counts.
>>>
>>> No - Excel is the only thing that businesses have been conned into
>>> using...
>>
>> What features of excel do you, as a systems accountant unable to keep a
>> job down, feel it is missing compared to say the OO offering? How were
>> these features in OO 15 years ago when people first started using Excel
>> seriously?
>
> Quite capable of keeping jobs down thank you very much.
> Your comprehension skills, as usual are completely lacking.

You keep repeating that, but you fool no one.

> Please quote the post where I said the Excel lacks functions that OO
> has.

You said they were conned. Therefore you feel it was not up to the task
in comparison to other offerings. I realise you're a bit slow but
surely not everything needs to be fast forwarded for you to understand?

> You also need a history lesson.

LOL.

> The reason Excel is predominant is that at the beginning, MS included
> free versions of Office with various Server OSs.

Server OSs? OK ... But you said they were conned ...

> At the time there were many other perfectly capable spreadsheet
> applications around - Lotus 123, Multiplan, to name just two. Because
> MS provided FREE copies of Office, naturrally they got used, and thus
> the lock-in began.

You mean FREE like OO is?

Whoops!

How "open" where Lotus 123 etc back then? You need a history lesson and
a slap around the chops with a common sense haddock too.

>
>> How well do Excel the plugins developed over years work in OO
>> for the small to large businessman?
>
> Err WHAT "plugins"?

Google is that way ->

But when talking excel we need to talk the bigger picture too of course
- Office. Including outlook (which I hate).

>
> Most small businesses don't USE plugins - they don't need to.

Your experience is clearly not quite as awe inspiring as you would have
us think.