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From: Chris Ridd on 27 Mar 2010 08:11
On 2010-03-27 12:01:06 +0000, Ben Shimmin said:

> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>:
>> On 2010-03-27 11:15:27 +0000, Ben Shimmin said:
>
> [...]
>
>>> Adium is pretty good, I think -- it supports lots of protocols (er,
>>> except Skype, maybe?) and it's very configurable, so you can make it
>>
>> It has really poor support for XMPP chat rooms, which is annoying given
>> that the underlying libraries it uses can do it.
>
> Curious. Adium uses libpurple, right? Do other libpurple-based apps
> have better support for them?

I think purple became something else - gaim? But other things using the
same libraries, eg pidgin, support them better.

>> I find theming a bit of an odd thing to put in an app.
>
> Well, it's very un-Apple. But it works well in this case, I think.

It allows you to remove the more gratuitously stupid stuff, so I'm
grateful to it just for that!

--
Chris

From: Ben Shimmin on 27 Mar 2010 08:18
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>:
> On 2010-03-27 12:01:06 +0000, Ben Shimmin said:

[...]

>> Curious. Adium uses libpurple, right? Do other libpurple-based apps
>> have better support for them?
>
> I think purple became something else - gaim?

Wasn't it the other way round? Gaim became Pidgin and libgaim became
libpurple? Not that it desperately matters!

b.

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From: Chris Ridd on 27 Mar 2010 08:22
On 2010-03-27 12:18:39 +0000, Ben Shimmin said:

> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>:
>> On 2010-03-27 12:01:06 +0000, Ben Shimmin said:
>
> [...]
>
>>> Curious. Adium uses libpurple, right? Do other libpurple-based apps
>>> have better support for them?
>>
>> I think purple became something else - gaim?
>
> Wasn't it the other way round? Gaim became Pidgin and libgaim became
> libpurple? Not that it desperately matters!

It might have been that way around!

--
Chris

From: Peter Ceresole on 27 Mar 2010 10:51
Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote:

> Adium is pretty good, I think -- it supports lots of protocols... Obviously
> it doesn't support audio or video and probably not stupid emoticons in
> MSN, but those aren't really things I care about.

Not supporting emoticans is doubleplus good. But not supporting audio
and video is doubleplusbroken, as far as I am concerned. Seeing and
hearing the person is more important in real life than almost anything
else. So iChat, which does that pretty well, as well as text and file
transfers, remains the only one I can use.

Pity.
--
Peter
From: Peter Ceresole on 27 Mar 2010 12:08
Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote:

> It's all a matter of horses for courses, really. My only real use of
> MSN (and instant messaging on a computer at all, in fact) is at work

Oh yes; and in that case, I can see that MSN would do fine. In fact,
when I was at the Beeb, in practice we'd either use email (quick enough
to be effectively real time) or, really, a sprint down the corridor.
Still the best, if the corridor is in the same building...
--
Peter
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