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From: Jim on 25 Mar 2010 02:52
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/messenger-8/default.mspx>

Thought T I M might be interested in this. And maybe a few other people
as well.

Jim
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From: J. J. Lodder on 25 Mar 2010 03:40
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/messenger-8/default.mspx>

To little, too late, probably.
They won't beat Skype,

Jan
From: Chris Ridd on 25 Mar 2010 04:03
On 2010-03-25 07:40:52 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:

> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/messenger-8/default.mspx>
>
> To little, too late, probably.
> They won't beat Skype,

I've got a breakdown of IM services by country, and MSN has 60%+ in
most countries. So MSN + AV is clearly going to get a lot of users
almost by default, regardless of Skype.

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From: T i m on 25 Mar 2010 05:25
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:52:10 +0000, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim)
wrote:

><http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/messenger-8/default.mspx>
>
>Thought T I M might be interested in this. And maybe a few other people
>as well.
>
Cheers Jim (downloaded and will install later).

Whilst real / full MSN on the Mac would be one less hurdle for me /
us using OSX as our daily desktop there are still too many others, for
me the biggest being no Agent (without a faff and after 'no need' of
course). ;-)

I do try it at various intervals though, to see how it copes against
Windows or Ubuntu and like most OS's has it's good and bad points.

For example, OSX seems to easily see and connect to my Windows Home
Server (both as a user and Admin / RDC) whereas I can't seem to log in
directly from Ubuntu (yet can via XBMC running on the same machine?).
Probably finger trouble but it seems others have experienced similar.
OSX is much quicker to start than XP on this Mini though (but I
generally only do so once a day so ...).

FWIW I wanted to burn a DVD from an AVI the other day and thought I'd
see how easy it would be on Ubuntu on an old laptop (I didn't have a
solution on OSX or XP that I knew of and this Mini doesn't have a DVD
burner). I installed DeVeDe and with a couple of clicks that turned
the avi into a DVD iso and right clicking the iso burnt a DVD (that
played in our domestic player). All very easy and free. Not had as
much luck doing similar on OSX or XP but then I haven't tried very
hard (as soon as I see more than 'Install and click go' I get bored,
all this extracting various layers and re-coding etc etc). ;-(

Back OT, hasn't there been an MSN for OSX all along though (all be it
not very up_to_date) or is it that this one does video? On that, it
looks like it's (still) a bit fussy?

"Voice: Compatible microphone and speakers, headset with microphone,
or equivalent device. Sample devices include: A built-in Apple iSight
webcam, an external Apple iSight webcam, and Logitech QuickCam for
Notebooks
Video: Compatible Webcams. Sample devices include: A built-in Apple
iSight webcam and an external Apple iSight webcam."


Cheers, T i m

p.s. Thanks for doing the 'T i m' thing but why do some people's
newsreaders capitalise the letters (assuming that's what is
happening)?
From: Jim on 25 Mar 2010 05:34
On 2010-03-25, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
> Back OT, hasn't there been an MSN for OSX all along though (all be it
> not very up_to_date) or is it that this one does video? On that, it
> looks like it's (still) a bit fussy?

Pretty sure prior versions didn't do video. This one supposedly does.

> "Voice: Compatible microphone and speakers, headset with microphone,
> or equivalent device. Sample devices include: A built-in Apple iSight
> webcam, an external Apple iSight webcam, and Logitech QuickCam for
> Notebooks
> Video: Compatible Webcams. Sample devices include: A built-in Apple
> iSight webcam and an external Apple iSight webcam."

I assume it just means 'any webcam that's visible to OS X'.

> Cheers, T i m
>
> p.s. Thanks for doing the 'T i m' thing but why do some people's
> newsreaders capitalise the letters (assuming that's what is
> happening)?

That was my mistake, sorry.

Jim
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