From: Mike Easter on
Craig wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:

>> What happens if an unlicensed version of a Win OS is running MSE and
>> MSE phones home to MS?

>> Microsoft has long had a policy of giving Windows pirates a free pass
>> to download security patches.

> Of course, this'll mean fewer unlicensed instances will stay current &
> patched, pushing the infection rates up again. I wonder if there's a
> better way for MS.
>
The end user is a lot less worried about what is good for MS than what
is good for the enduser.

There is sound logic behind the use of pirated ware which seems fair to
the fair-minded end user who bought the typical system with such as XP
(or later) installed and licensed for use.

What the user got was a computer chock-full of bloatware and no MS
install disk, just a restore disk with the same kind of bloat.

What that same user learned was that they could either clean up the
junky install and make some images -- or, alternatively, they could
blast off the bad junky bloated install and install some clean pirate
ware like Tiny XP and then install the freeware apps they like instead
of the bloated junk.

That user feels entitled to use the Tiny XP seeing as how s/he has a
license to use XP on that hardware. The business of taking care of the
authentication isn't a problem.

There is also Tiny7 available for the torrenting.

--
Mike Easter
From: pooky on
"Knot" <Knot(a)Home.com> wrote in
news:e193d$4be561af$5ec34c4b$6191(a)news.eurofeeds.com:

>
>
> "Jim S" <jim(a)jimXscott.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1xdlcvqlkz66m.dlg(a)ID-104726.news.individual.net...
>
>> On Sat, 08 May 2010 13:22:08 +1000, Maurice Helwig wrote:
>>>
>>> http://windowssecrets.com/2010/05/06/01-The-120-day-
Microsoft-sec
>>> urity-suite-test-drive What does everyone think
>>
>> Wonderful.
>> No need for other antiviruses or antispyware.
>> Install and forget.
>
> I agree.
>
Same here.
From: Mike Easter on
Bear Bottoms wrote:
> Mike Easter <MikeE(a)ster.invalid> wrote in news:84lu1cFg9gU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> That user feels entitled to use the Tiny XP seeing as how s/he has a
>> license to use XP on that hardware. The business of taking care of the
>> authentication isn't a problem.
>
> It is illegal and against the terms of service he agreed to when he
> purchased the OS.

He didn't 'purchase an OS'. He acquired a license to use XP on that
machine. He didn't commit (contract or 'surrender') to MS or anyone
else that he would use XP plus a buncha' bloatware.

> There is no justification for the fact it is illegal.

You haven't convinced me that it is 'illegal' to use an OS for which you
acquired a license to use that particular and exact OS.

You are alleging that the user is somehow infringing on MS's copyright
while he is using an OS which he has a license to use.

There is plenty of justification.

> Certainly, it shouldn't be catered to.

Catered? What does 'catered to' mean in this context? That 'we'
shouldn't be talking about it or agreeing that it is rational?

> Almost everyone with a computer has likely done something illegal. When
> something bad happens, you have little ground to stand on.

Something bad? What something bad are we trying to talk about here?


--
Mike Easter
From: HeyBub on
Maurice Helwig wrote:
> This came in a newsletter. Its worth a read.
>
> http://windowssecrets.com/2010/05/06/01-The-120-day-Microsoft-security-suite-test-drive
>
> What does everyone think -- thinking of using it on my wifes laptop
> which will not take avast version 5 at all.
>
> Maurice Helwig

* You can't beat the price.
* It's as effective as virtually all the other AV programs. Frankly, the
differences between the top-tier programs is mere nibbling at the margins.
* Judging on unobtrusiveness, ease of use, and efficiency, MSE has to be at
or near the top.


From: M.L. on


>>This came in a newsletter. Its worth a read.
>>
>>http://windowssecrets.com/2010/05/06/01-The-120-day-Microsoft-security-suite-test-drive
>>
>>What does everyone think -- thinking of using it on my wifes laptop
>>which will not take avast version 5 at all.

>I have a big problem with Security Essentials phoning home to Microsoft,
>since you are automatically enrolled in Microsoft SpyNet when you
>install SE. You can select either Basic Membership or Advanced
>Membership, which determines how much information is sent to MS, but
>there is no way to opt out completely.

Joining SpyNet is optional.