Microsoft ending newsgroup support
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From: BobF on 7 May 2010 10:48 On 5/7/2010 9:21 AM, David Ching wrote: > "BobF" <nothanks(a)nospam.yum> wrote in message > news:hs160b$e9f$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> The solution is simple. Reconfigure to different servers and continue >> on as if the MS servers never existed. >> > > Unfortunately most of the major ISP's don't offer NNTP newsgroups > anymore, so will there be any free servers to access? I subscribe to > Giganews, but that costs $. > > -- David The example I posted from is a FREE nntp server. There is also news.aioe.org and news.telesweet.net I agree that relying on free nntp servers isn't the best solution. However, if MS continues with their plans ....
From: Tom Serface on 7 May 2010 10:55 I think it would be in MSFT's best interest to control the API as much as possible. If people use the bridge and newsreaders they don't have as much control over what is seen on the screen (other kinds of content). If I were them I'd want to the ability to have better control over the whole experience. Tom "Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer(a)flounder.com> wrote in message news:biv6u5hniaduavmrqsq2vgsem3sdnhhltg(a)4ax.com... > > So if the API is exposed, I would push Forte (vendor of my favorite NG > reader) into > considering a Microsoft-forum-capable version of Agent, so the silliness > of the unusable > Microsoft interface is no longer an issue.
From: Tom Serface on 7 May 2010 10:57 Hi G, I think that is a factor, but the biggest factor, in my opinion, is tracking participation and ensuring that the customer's experience (look and feel, accessibility, etc.) is the best it can be. We are pretty high power users and don't care about bells and whistles that much, but I think the typical MSFT Windows 7 customer likes the fancier looking interface. I also think the forums protect the content. Tom "Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanniDOTdicanio(a)REMOVEMEgmail.com> wrote in message news:uPP0v1b7KHA.5936(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer(a)flounder.com> wrote: > >> I may be wrong. But a decision to kill off the NNTP forums sounds like >> nobody at >> Microsoft was in touch with reality. Or, as we often phrase it "their >> reality-distortion >> field was running full force that day". > > I think that they can do money on the web forums thanks to advertising; > this is not possible with NNTP newsgroups. > And on the web forum it is possible to delete posts and threads or move > them around (again, not possible with NNTP). > > Giovanni > >
From: Tom Serface on 7 May 2010 10:58 I think the link posted *is* the new place. There is not a new newsgroup, but I'm glad that MSFT did open up an MFC forum. It shows that they are still serious about supporting MFC. They could have, just as easily, lumped us in with C++ General and C++ Language like they had done previously. Tom "Bo Persson" <bop(a)gmb.dk> wrote in message news:84gdevFhe9U1(a)mid.individual.net... > Ajay Kalra wrote: >>> There is an MFC >>> forum:http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vcmfcatl/threads >> >> Is this going to be the new place for those who are here? > > No. > > >
From: Tom Serface on 7 May 2010 11:02
It does take more time than newsgroups, but it's easy enough to figure out where you've answered questions previously and I like the email notification when questions have responses. You are right though that it is a little slower to pop up. I haven't tried the bridge software recently. I may give that a crack and see how it works out. The one I tried months ago required that I run some separate program simultaneously with the Windows Mail program and it didn't work very well (posts weren't getting sent up and some weren't brought down). Could be all of those issues are fixed now. I'll take another look. Tom "David Lowndes" <DavidL(a)example.invalid> wrote in message news:35s3u5h82s501v0pmt4e4hn2lqlklsppim(a)4ax.com... >>I've just been using the web interface and it's not so bad once you get >>used to it. I have to be careful not to accidentally do something that >>makes it go "back" or I lose everything I've typed and offline work is not >>possible, but it's not too bad. > > It's OK for asking questions, but I really can't face it for answering > - life's too short. > > Dave |