From: Sam Wormley on
On 5/29/10 12:28 AM, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> Hey, the self-styled physicists in the past 100 years (including a lot
> of PhD's and professors) fail to understand the basics. Instead, they
> have embraced mysticism and mathemagics.<shrug>
>
> Examples are ample.
>
> How the null results of the MMX are misinterpreted by the self-
> styled physicists.

Hidden is the law of inertia is that fact the whether an object
is in motion or not depends strictly on the point of view of
the observer.

Affirmed in Newton's laws of motion.

Certainly in agreement with the null results of Michelson-Morley
experiment and subsequent experiments.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
From: Koobee Wublee on
On May 29, 6:46 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 12:13 am, Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > It is not a need to but what experiment shows. <shrug>
>
> Which experimental measurement is quantitatively in conflict with a
> prediction of relativity?

The MMX. It is what I have been talking about in the past few days in
particular.

> > Yes, it is. Just go back to the null results of the MMX. <shrug>
>
> Relativity predicts null results in the MMX.

It does so if the ballistic theory of light holds. <shrug>
Otherwise, both the Voigt and Larmor's Lorentz transform that must
reference all observation back to the stationary background of the
Aether also explain the null results. <shrug>

> > Let's not confuse with completely disproving a theory versus a
> > necessary modification to that theory. <shrug>
>
> > In particular,
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/c5a0a3c587fd4df4?hl=en

The Lorentz transform that satisfies the principle of relativity was
first derived from Poincare based on Larmor's Lorentz transform. The
Lorentz transform as you know of is merely a special case to Larmor's
Lorentz transform which does not satisfy the principle of relativity
in general. <shrug>
From: Koobee Wublee on
On May 29, 7:52 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/29/10 12:28 AM, Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > Hey, the self-styled physicists in the past 100 years (including a lot
> > of PhD's and professors) fail to understand the basics. Instead, they
> > have embraced mysticism and mathemagics.<shrug>
>
> > Examples are ample.
>
> > How the null results of the MMX are misinterpreted by the self-
> > styled physicists.
>
> Hidden is the law of inertia is that fact the whether an object
> is in motion or not depends strictly on the point of view of
> the observer.

Is Sam retarded or just autistic? The MMX has nothing to do with any
inertia. <shrug>

> Affirmed in Newton's laws of motion.

One of the many conclusions into the null results of the MMX is that
the Galilean transform actually holds in which the ballistic theory of
light must be observed. In that case, electromagnetism must be
falsified. Get a grip on your life, Sam. <shrug>

> Certainly in agreement with the null results of Michelson-Morley
> experiment and subsequent experiments.

So, you are now in bed with Androcles, that senile Kibutz rambling
Stalinist, and many more who are still living in the times of Michell,
Lord Cavendish, and Von Soldner. That would be the advent of
electromagnetism. <shrug>

> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html

More nonsense written by self-styled physicists who do not understand
the basics. <shrug>


From: Koobee Wublee on
On Jun 1, 8:15 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 4:46 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:

> > Relativity uses the ballistic nature of light to explain the MMX null result.
>
> No, it doesn't.

If light is considered as classical particles that obey the principle
of relativity, then it is true that the null results of the MMX can be
explained away as so. We have been through this many times over.
<shrug>

> You do, or so you claim.

I am very surprised that a professor or an ex-professor of physics
cannot comprehend this issue. <shrug>

> But relativity doesn't.

Of course, the ballistic theory of light cannot satisfy
electromagnetism. To satisfy electromagnetism, there are an infinite
numbers of transforms, modified from the Galilean one, that would also
predict the null results of the MMX. The first one to do so was the
Voigt transform. Despite its simpler form, it is almost completely
forgotten among the self-styled physicists today. The next one was
Larmor's Lorentz transform in which it is identical to the Lorentz
transform as we know of today except one of the two observers must be
the stationary background of the Aether. To relate to two observers
not necessarily the stationary background of the Aether, two such
Larmor's transforms must be correlated. After working with the
special case where both observers are moving in parallel against the
stationary background of the Aether, Poincare found the math to allow
the condition where one of the two observers must be the stationary
background. Of course, he did not test that to a more general
condition where both observers can move not necessarily in parallel to
the stationary background of the Aether. If so, anyone with mere high
school algebra background will find Poincare's Lorentz transform or
the Lorentz transform as we know of not valid in such a more general
case. Thus, none of the transforms that do not satisfy the ballistic
theory of light can also satisfy the principle of relativity AS
ELECTROMAGNETISM DEMANDS. <shrug>

> > .......Einstein's Relativity

Einstein was nobody. He was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar.
<shrug>

> > ...The religion that worships negative space.

GR is a religion that worship a negative mass density in vacuum. The
task to do so is utterly silly beyond any level of reasoning, and yet
almost all self-styled physicists today are members of this religious
belief. <time to throw up>

Oh, they can deny so by swapping their wooden idol (negative mass
density) with a iron one (negative energy density). The result
follows the same stupidity. <shrug>

I am certain sometime in the future. Scholars will equate STUPIDITY
with the self-styled physicists in the 20th and early 21th centuries.
<shrug>


From: PD on
On Jun 2, 12:30 am, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 8:15 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 30, 4:46 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> > > Relativity uses the ballistic nature of light to explain the MMX null result.
>
> > No, it doesn't.
>
> If light is considered as classical particles that obey the principle
> of relativity, then it is true that the null results of the MMX can be
> explained away as so.  We have been through this many times over.
> <shrug>

Yes, that is so. However, this does not mean that this explanation is
IDENTICAL to the explanation put forward by relativity. Henri's claim
was that relativity itself uses the ballistic nature of light in its
explanation, and that is a flatly incorrect statement.

>
> > You do, or so you claim.
>
> I am very surprised that a professor or an ex-professor of physics
> cannot comprehend this issue.  <shrug>
>
> > But relativity doesn't.
>
> Of course, the ballistic theory of light cannot satisfy
> electromagnetism.  To satisfy electromagnetism, there are an infinite
> numbers of transforms, modified from the Galilean one, that would also
> predict the null results of the MMX.

Actually, not an infinite number of transforms. The allowed transforms
have been characterized, and the list is quite finite.

However, which transform is the one that applies in nature is not
borne on the backs of the MMX. Multiple experiments are needed to
winnow the list down to the appropriate one.

>  The first one to do so was the
> Voigt transform.  Despite its simpler form, it is almost completely
> forgotten among the self-styled physicists today.  The next one was
> Larmor's Lorentz transform in which it is identical to the Lorentz
> transform as we know of today except one of the two observers must be
> the stationary background of the Aether.  To relate to two observers
> not necessarily the stationary background of the Aether, two such
> Larmor's transforms must be correlated.  After working with the
> special case where both observers are moving in parallel against the
> stationary background of the Aether, Poincare found the math to allow
> the condition where one of the two observers must be the stationary
> background.  Of course, he did not test that to a more general
> condition where both observers can move not necessarily in parallel to
> the stationary background of the Aether.  If so, anyone with mere high
> school algebra background will find Poincare's Lorentz transform or
> the Lorentz transform as we know of not valid in such a more general
> case.

This is another one of your flatly incorrect claims, which leads to
the error in the next sentence.

> Thus, none of the transforms that do not satisfy the ballistic
> theory of light can also satisfy the principle of relativity AS
> ELECTROMAGNETISM DEMANDS.  <shrug>
>
> > > .......Einstein's Relativity
>
> Einstein was nobody.  He was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar.
> <shrug>
>
> > > ...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> GR is a religion that worship a negative mass density in vacuum.  The
> task to do so is utterly silly beyond any level of reasoning, and yet
> almost all self-styled physicists today are members of this religious
> belief.  <time to throw up>
>
> Oh, they can deny so by swapping their wooden idol (negative mass
> density) with a iron one (negative energy density).  The result
> follows the same stupidity.  <shrug>
>
> I am certain sometime in the future.  Scholars will equate STUPIDITY
> with the self-styled physicists in the 20th and early 21th centuries.
> <shrug>