More Einsteinian Idiocy
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From: Henry Wilson DSc on 27 May 2010 18:49 On Thu, 27 May 2010 09:01:15 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On May 26, 6:48�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: >> Einstein's P1 states that, �"the laws of physics are the same on �all frames". >> >> Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and >> when the LTs are applied. >> >> So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? >> >> Henry Wilson... >> >> .......A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability. > >Sigh. > >There are two bits of information available. >1. We have a good chunk of the laws of physics already. They have been >tested against experiment. >2. We assert that these laws should not be dependent on inertial >reference frame. > >Then these two pieces of information dictate the *form* of >transformation between inertial reference frames that would be >consistent with them. Don't try to wriggle out... >PD Henry Wilson... ........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative areas.
From: Henry Wilson DSc on 27 May 2010 18:53 On Thu, 27 May 2010 11:51:46 -0700 (PDT), harald <hvan(a)swissonline.ch> wrote: >On May 27, 1:48�am, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: >> Einstein's P1 states that, �"the laws of physics are the same on �all frames". > >If you refer to SRT, not exactly so. And Newtonian physics makes the >same point. We know that. >> Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and >> when the LTs are applied. > >No, the LTs merely explain *why* the PoR is also valid for light even >though it propagates like a wave. > >> So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? > >As far as we know (ignoring a few odd experiments that haven't been >confirmed), the laws of physics are the same in all inertial systems. >Nothing new there. What is new, is that Einstein's P1 is a blatant lie. In his theory the laws of physics ARE NOT the same in all frames. The LTs have to applied to make them the same. Henry Wilson... ........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative areas.
From: pmb on 28 May 2010 03:21 On May 26, 7:48 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". That is esssentially correct. > Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and > when the LTs are applied. Actually what SR holds to be true is that the laws of nature are the same in all inertial coordinates and to obtain the laws in one frame starting with the initial one uses the Lorentz transformation to tramsform from inertial system A to inertial system B. These two items don't contradict each other. > > So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? They are. Pete
From: harald on 28 May 2010 04:05 On May 28, 12:53 am, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > On Thu, 27 May 2010 11:51:46 -0700 (PDT), harald <h...(a)swissonline.ch> wrote: > >On May 27, 1:48 am, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > >> Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". > > >If you refer to SRT, not exactly so. And Newtonian physics makes the > >same point. > > We know that. > > >> Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and > >> when the LTs are applied. > > >No, the LTs merely explain *why* the PoR is also valid for light even > >though it propagates like a wave. > > >> So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? > > >As far as we know (ignoring a few odd experiments that haven't been > >confirmed), the laws of physics are the same in all inertial systems. > >Nothing new there. > > What is new, is that Einstein's P1 is a blatant lie. In his theory the laws of > physics ARE NOT the same in all frames. The LTs have to > applied to make them the same. And here's another one like yours: Newton's theory is a blatant lie. In his theory the laws of physics ARE NOT the same in all frames. The GTs have to applied to make them the same. ;-) Harald
From: PD on 28 May 2010 09:39
On May 27, 5:49 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > On Thu, 27 May 2010 09:01:15 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >On May 26, 6:48 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > >> Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". > > >> Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and > >> when the LTs are applied. > > >> So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? > > >> Henry Wilson... > > >> .......A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability. > > >Sigh. > > >There are two bits of information available. > >1. We have a good chunk of the laws of physics already. They have been > >tested against experiment. > >2. We assert that these laws should not be dependent on inertial > >reference frame. > > >Then these two pieces of information dictate the *form* of > >transformation between inertial reference frames that would be > >consistent with them. > > Don't try to wriggle out... Wriggle out of what? Your misstatement, which I corrected for you? Why would I wriggle out of your misstatement? > > >PD > > Henry Wilson... > > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative areas. |