More Einsteinian Idiocy
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From: PD on 28 May 2010 09:41 On May 27, 5:53 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > On Thu, 27 May 2010 11:51:46 -0700 (PDT), harald <h...(a)swissonline.ch> wrote: > >On May 27, 1:48 am, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > >> Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". > > >If you refer to SRT, not exactly so. And Newtonian physics makes the > >same point. > > We know that. > > >> Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and > >> when the LTs are applied. > > >No, the LTs merely explain *why* the PoR is also valid for light even > >though it propagates like a wave. > > >> So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? > > >As far as we know (ignoring a few odd experiments that haven't been > >confirmed), the laws of physics are the same in all inertial systems. > >Nothing new there. > > What is new, is that Einstein's P1 is a blatant lie. In his theory the laws of > physics ARE NOT the same in all frames. Oh, but they are. All you have to do is live in that frame and test to see if the rules are the same. This is easily done in experiment. > The LTs have to applied to make them > the same. No, you simply observe things from a different frame to see if they are the same. You don't need transformations at all to test this statement. You simply *measure* from a different frame. They are. Then you ask what must be true about the relationships between quantities in different frames. It turns out that it has to be Lorentz transformations. > > Henry Wilson... > > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative areas.
From: waldofj on 28 May 2010 10:30 you fuckin' moronic cretin. oh c'mon, you can do better than that. Slowing down in your old age eh?
From: Hayek on 28 May 2010 15:52 Henry Wilson DSc wrote: > Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". > Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and > when the LTs are applied. The lt's follows from the p1 & p2. In order to keep p1 & p2, something else had to give, time, mass, length. > So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? Actually it is about an EXTERNAL physical property, that influences all the laws of physics in the same way. Clearly, a clock can run differently in different frames. It is no use to put a clock next to another one, as it will undergo the same property as the first one. I am convinced this one physical property is inertia, and that inertia is basic to all classical physical laws. A clock is an inertiameter, and inertia sets the speed of light, the reason that it is always c, your clock and the speed of light react in the same way to increased or decreased inertia, so that you always measure c. It is quite hard to decipher this from SR, it is a bit easier from GR, thanks to the equivalence principle. Look at all the evidence : mass increases, but how can heavy mass increase ? It is more logical that inertial mass increases, and when this goes to infinity, then one cannot accelerate any further, c is the speed limit. The inertia of the escapement or quartz of your watch increases, causing your watch to run slower, and every molecule in your body moves slower, again by means of increased inertia. Some say that Quantum mechanics is the more fundamental theory, but it follows nicely the conditions of the inertial frame or as I would put it : QM is totally subjected to changes in inertia. If QM were not, we would be able to measure a local change in inertia, and relativity would be moot. Uwe Hayek. > > > Henry Wilson... > > .......A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability. -- We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion : the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history. -- Ayn Rand I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. -- Thomas Jefferson. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill.
From: Androcles on 28 May 2010 15:58 "Hayek" <hayektt(a)nospam.xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:4c001f19$0$22919$e4fe514c(a)news.xs4all.nl... | Henry Wilson DSc wrote: | | > Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". | | > Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and | > when the LTs are applied. | | The lt's follows from the p1 & p2. | | In order to keep p1 & p2, something else had to give, | time, mass, length. | | | > So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? | | Actually it is about an EXTERNAL physical property, that | influences all the laws of physics in the same way. | | Clearly, a clock can run differently in different frames. ======================================================= Clearly and obviously and plainly, a clock cannot possibly run differently in different frames. I win, I used more assertions than you.
From: Igor on 29 May 2010 11:31
On May 26, 7:48 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". > > Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and > when the LTs are applied. > > So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? > > Henry Wilson... > > .......A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability. And Mister Bullshit baits his hook one more time. |