From: Henry Wilson DSc on 26 May 2010 19:48 Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and when the LTs are applied. So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? Henry Wilson... ........A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability.
From: Androcles on 26 May 2010 20:11 "Henry Wilson DSc" <..@..> wrote in message news:sicrv5hs7qh7s69a1emlet9p88bhhs37ga(a)4ax.com... | Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". No it doesn't, Einstein's P1 states "Take, for example, the reciprocal electrodynamic action of a magnet and a conductor. The observable phenomenon here depends only on the relative motion of the conductor and the magnet," "Examples of this sort, together with [yada suggestion yada suggestion yada] will hereafter be called the "Principle of Relativity" Learn to read, Awilson, you've been listening to too many kooks.
From: whoever on 26 May 2010 20:22 "Henry Wilson DSc" <..@..> wrote in message news:sicrv5hs7qh7s69a1emlet9p88bhhs37ga(a)4ax.com... > Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all > frames". No .. it doesn't say that. Try reading what was actually said again, instead of making up your own quotes. His 'P1' is that "the same laws of electrodynamics and optics will be valid for all frames of reference for which the equations of mechanics hold good." So it is just saying that in any frame where the law of mechanics apply (we call them inertial frames), the laws of electrodynamics will apply as well. > Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if > and > when the LTs are applied. No .. he goes on to prove that if P1 *and* P2 are correct, then you get that the relationship between the coordinates of an event in any given pair of inertial frames (if you align the axes and origins for the coordinates) will be a Lorentz transform. You don't 'apply' an LT to a frame to make physics work. The physics already works. > So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? You really are incredibly ignorant or someone so pompous. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Sue... on 26 May 2010 21:23 On May 26, 7:48 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". > > Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and > when the LTs are applied. > > So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? When someone catches one of Newton's massive light corpuscles maybe they will loan it to you so you can find a better way to state its behaviour. 'Till then, the Galilean transform should work fine for the everyday light that is as almost as abundant as crude oil in your tomato patch. <~<the famous Lorentz transformation [] ensures that the velocity of [particle] light is invariant between different inertial frames, and also reduces to the more familiar Galilean transform in the limit $v \ll c$.>~> http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node109.html Sue... > > Henry Wilson... > > .......A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability.
From: BURT on 26 May 2010 21:29
On May 26, 6:23 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On May 26, 7:48 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > > > Einstein's P1 states that, "the laws of physics are the same on all frames". > > > Then his stupid theory goes on to point out that they are only the same if and > > when the LTs are applied. > > > So what is it really? ARE they the same or aren't they? > > When someone catches one of Newton's > massive light corpuscles maybe they will loan > it to you so you can find > a better way to state its behaviour. > > 'Till then, the Galilean transform should > work fine for the everyday light that is > as almost as abundant as crude oil > in your tomato patch. > > <~<the famous Lorentz transformation [] ensures > that the velocity of [particle] light is > invariant between different inertial frames, > and also reduces to the more familiar > Galilean transform in the limit $v \ll c$.>~>http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node109.html > > Sue... > > > > > > > Henry Wilson... > > > .......A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Atoms cannot flatten in form. There is no space contraction. There is only time rate slowdown. Mitch Raemsch |