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From: Dr Geoff Hone on 8 Apr 2010 05:29 On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:07:10 +0100, Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: >> Like when I used to try to right click on the Apple mouse >> when it wasn't enabled (was there a time when there was no right click >> on Apple mice)? > >Did you disable it then? And yes, if you go back far enough you'll find >there was no right-click. I forget when that came in, someone else will >prolly know. > About as far back as the ONE-button mouse (not very far). [Opens odds-and-sods drawer, removes Apple Pro mouse, clicks the top once or twice, puts it back] Best mouse I ever bought was an optical/USB (hence with tail) item for the vast sum of $3.99 in MicroCenter off the Washington Beltway, way back in 2002. Still using it on my 450mhz G4. Roller mice - apart from the roller-cleaning issue - have a basic problem in that there is no consistency in where the ball goes relative to the hand/wrist of the user. This has a dramatic effect on the response speed of the rodent, and is very hard to control for when either the user changes, or the computer/mouse setup is changed - like for instance in a University computing lab.
From: T i m on 8 Apr 2010 06:21 On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:27:56 +0100, Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <lcupr55u0avjgk4h5eu32gm0e9j8dmuare(a)4ax.com> > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > >[snip] >> >> I can't say I found it that useful. What's more it's pretty rare out >> there so when you find yourself on a 'std' mouse you have to unlearn >> that action. Like when I used to try to right click on the Apple mouse >> when it wasn't enabled (was there a time when there was no right click >> on Apple mice)? >> >Yes, just had to replace the one on my G4 so that I could right click. Thanks. I thought I remembered some Apple mice didn't look like they had a right click but did (but not sure how you could tell). Or if the mouse itself could but the OS couldn't (like pre OSX)? Cheers, T i m
From: Jim on 8 Apr 2010 06:25 Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > > Like when I used to try to right click on the Apple mouse > > when it wasn't enabled (was there a time when there was no right click > > on Apple mice)? > > Did you disable it then? And yes, if you go back far enough you'll find > there was no right-click. I forget when that came in, someone else will > prolly know. Pretty sure the first Apple mouse to support it was the Mighty Mouse. Other generic USB two-button mice worked fine though. Jim -- "Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
From: T i m on 8 Apr 2010 06:41 On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:07:10 +0100, Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: >> Stanley knife and Superglue aren't thing's I want to reach for when >> cleaning a mouse! > >Too hard for you eh T i m ?? You should learn to be a more practical >man and less of an ivory tower academic. ;-) > >> >That's about 4 I've done now. >> >> Nice. Want to do mine (if I ever find it again)? > >For a huge fee, possibly. We are talking Apple products here so there are no 'surprises'. > >> > And having the pea to scroll in all >> >directions with makes the occasional necessary cleaning well worth it. >> >> I can't say I found it that useful. > >That's because, as we've noted before, you never actually *do* anything >with your machines. True (by your understand of the word 'do') of course. My understand of 'do' is that the machine does what and I can do I want to it easily. Like, if I wanted to take my mouse apart I'd undo one or two screws .... and wouldn't put it back together with superglue. That's the sort of solution I'd expect to do with cheap plastic mass produced shi .... ah (it's not cheap is it). ;-( > You know, like these folk with all the posh nav >radar kit on their boats who never put to sea. Or perhaps I'm thinking >of the go-faster stripes and artificial knock-off hub-caps on the Ford >Zodiac. People who could afford 'Apple' you mean? > >> What's more it's pretty rare out > >Not in our household it isn't. I said 'out there', not talking about your blinkered and isolated world. > You'll be telling me next I'm not allowed >a toaster cos there's some folks in the world without one. You shouldn't have a toaster because you would try to fix it with a Stanley knife and Superglue (or maybe you should have one <weg>!). > >> there so when you find yourself on a 'std' mouse you have to unlearn >> that action. > >I *am* on a standard mouse. Not statically you aren't and not even 100% of Apple users like the things. I didn't like the std Apple mouse because it just didn't work (by work I mean position the cursor when I move the mouse over any surface most other mice would work on) and it clicked when I rested my hand on it (as I would on any other mouse I've owned without it going off on it's own). > >> Like when I used to try to right click on the Apple mouse >> when it wasn't enabled (was there a time when there was no right click >> on Apple mice)? > >Did you disable it then? And yes, if you go back far enough you'll find >there was no right-click. I forget when that came in, someone else will >prolly know. Someone not on those meds you mean? ;-) > >> > I >> >gave her the old Logitech wheel mouse while hers was in bits, she hated >> >it and was well pleased when the MM came back. >> >> I guess you get used to it. Where would you actually use it though? > >Anywhere where the document is larger than the window, such as a Word or >Excel doc (*extremely* time-saving if you do your household accts in >Excel or equivalent, the doc can get very wide). Ah yes, you are right, I'm not a secretary. > Or a browser window, >etc etc. I seem to manage somehow. ;-) Cheers, T i m
From: Graeme on 8 Apr 2010 06:51
In message <hebrr5l62f42hhb8dj15qkdk0l3pvvrd0e(a)4ax.com> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:27:56 +0100, Graeme > <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >In message <lcupr55u0avjgk4h5eu32gm0e9j8dmuare(a)4ax.com> > > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > > >[snip] > >> > >> I can't say I found it that useful. What's more it's pretty rare out > >> there so when you find yourself on a 'std' mouse you have to unlearn > >> that action. Like when I used to try to right click on the Apple mouse > >> when it wasn't enabled (was there a time when there was no right click > >> on Apple mice)? > >> > >Yes, just had to replace the one on my G4 so that I could right click. > > > Thanks. I thought I remembered some Apple mice didn't look like they > had a right click but did (but not sure how you could tell). Or if the > mouse itself could but the OS couldn't (like pre OSX)? > The one I've got now has no obvious indication, you just press on the appropriate side. It's got squeeze buttons on the side but I haven't found a use for them yet. By default they mimic F12. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/> |