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From: Mike Jr on 15 Jan 2010 18:36 On Jan 15, 1:32 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 1/15/10 9:54 AM, john wrote: > > > > > > > In North America, the thermometers > > have been migrating to the coasts. > > (California uses just four- three on the > > LA beaches and one at an airport- perhaps > > on its way to the beach!) > > In Africa they have been migrating the other way- > > away from the cooler coasts and towards the > > hotter central plains. > > Also there has been a migration from higher > > elevations in Europe and NA to lower ones. > > > THIS is the way they get the > > results they want- sleight of land!! :-) > > > john > > Ya think, John! Cognitive dissonance is hard to beat. But regardless of what you and I do, the truth will out. My advice, If you can stand it, just read a chart at a time. You can peek for that long. --Mike Jr.
From: Bill Ward on 15 Jan 2010 19:08 On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:23:36 -0600, Brian wrote: > "Mike Jr" <n00spam(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:b6877501-1aaf-4ee0-b3f4-4fb818752977(a)a1g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 15, 1:17 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 1/15/10 11:59 AM, Mike Jr wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Jan 15, 12:21 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Top 11 Warmest Years On Record Have All Been In Last 13 Years >> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071213101419.htm >> >> >> 2007 Was Tied As Earth's Second Warmest Year >> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080116114150.htm >> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2008/01/080116114150-large.jpg >> >> >> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >> >> >>http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp- trend... >> >> > Sam, >> > Please read my links. The data that those records are based on is >> > manufactured garbage. >> >> What convince you that the data is manufactured garbage, Mike. Is that >> what you want to believe? Or do you have the "real" data? What is your >> evidence that the climatological data is wrong? Seriously! > >>Seriously. Read the links to see the evidence. I wouldn't point you to >>it if I didn't think that this was serious. > >>--Mike Jr. > > the data keeps changing > J-D annual means for 1998 is 58 > http://web.archive.org/web/20001206235400/http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/ update/gistemp/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt > J-D annual means for 1998 is 56 and 2005 is 58 > http://web.archive.org/web/20060206055540/http://data.giss.nasa.gov/ gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt > J-D annual means for 1998 is 57, 2005 is 62 and 2007 is 56 > http://web.archive.org/web/20080719094751/http://data.giss.nasa.gov/ gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt > J-D annual means for 1998 is 56, 2005 is 63 and 2007 is 57 > http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt It's nothing to worry about - just the normal retrochronic effect of CO2 on temperature.
From: Mike Jr on 15 Jan 2010 19:16 On Jan 15, 1:27 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 1/15/10 8:04 AM, Mike Jr wrote: > > > > > "Climategate: Leaked Emails Inspired Data Analyses Show Claimed > > Warming Greatly Exaggerated and NOAA not CRU is Ground Zero [snip] While the effort was inspired by the debacle at UAE, the analysis did not depend on UAE e-mails. Rather an analysis was performed on the Global Historic Climate Network (GHCN) itself. See what they uncovered. The detailed analyses are collected here (see links): http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/ghcn-the-global-analysis/ "NOAA appears to play a key role as a data gatherer/gatekeeper for the global data centers at NASA and CRU. Programmer E.M. Smiths analysis of NOAAs GHCN found they systematically eliminated 75% of the worlds stations with a clear bias towards removing higher latitude, high altitude and rural locations, all of which had a tendency to be cooler. The thermometers in a sense marched towards the tropics, the sea and to airport tarmacs." http://icecap.us/images/uploads/NOAAroleinclimategate.pdf --Mike Jr.
From: nuny on 15 Jan 2010 20:38 On Jan 15, 1:37 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > On Jan 15, 12:32 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 1/15/10 9:54 AM, john wrote: > > > > In North America, the thermometers > > > have been migrating to the coasts. > > > (California uses just four- three on the > > > LA beaches and one at an airport- perhaps > > > on its way to the beach!) > > > In Africa they have been migrating the other way- > > > away from the cooler coasts and towards the > > > hotter central plains. > > > Also there has been a migration from higher > > > elevations in Europe and NA to lower ones. > > > > THIS is the way they get the > > > results they want- sleight of land!! :-) > > > > john > > > Ya think, John!- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > You have to actually read the links, Sam. > Obviously, you haven't. Sam Wormley is typical of those who have an irrational emotional attachment to a conclusion that supports their biases. For Liberals*, it's the hippie/Greenie assumption that People Are Bad, and Technology Is Really Bad. AGW supports this, and the mere fact that data had to be cooked (OK, burnt to a crisp) to support it is fine with him. Notice he cannot bring himself to even examine, much less attempt to refute, the information in the links provided. Instead, the best he can do is "Ya think!", like a vocabulary-challenged tj frazir. This is why I say his is an emotional attachment; his intellect is short- circuited by counterevidence to his beliefs. When all the data that support AGW have been shown conclusively to have been cooked, if not outright faked, he will doubtless claim "a vast Right-wing conspiracy". * Of course, it isn't exclusive to Liberals. Mark L. Fergerson
From: Mike Jr on 15 Jan 2010 20:43
On Jan 15, 7:08 pm, Bill Ward <bw...(a)ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:23:36 -0600, Brian wrote: > > "Mike Jr" <n00s...(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > >news:b6877501-1aaf-4ee0-b3f4-4fb818752977(a)a1g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > > On Jan 15, 1:17 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 1/15/10 11:59 AM, Mike Jr wrote: > > >> > On Jan 15, 12:21 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Top 11 Warmest Years On Record Have All Been In Last 13 Years > >> >>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071213101419.htm > > >> >> 2007 Was Tied As Earth's Second Warmest Year > >> >>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080116114150.htm > >> >>http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2008/01/080116114150-large.jpg > > >> >> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase > > >> >>http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp- > trend... > > >> > Sam, > >> > Please read my links. The data that those records are based on is > >> > manufactured garbage. > > >> What convince you that the data is manufactured garbage, Mike. Is that > >> what you want to believe? Or do you have the "real" data? What is your > >> evidence that the climatological data is wrong? Seriously! > > >>Seriously. Read the links to see the evidence. I wouldn't point you to > >>it if I didn't think that this was serious. > > >>--Mike Jr. > > > the data keeps changing > > J-D annual means for 1998 is 58 > >http://web.archive.org/web/20001206235400/http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/ > > update/gistemp/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt> J-D annual means for 1998 is 56 and 2005 is 58 > >http://web.archive.org/web/20060206055540/http://data.giss.nasa.gov/ > > gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt> J-D annual means for 1998 is 57, 2005 is 62 and 2007 is 56 > >http://web.archive.org/web/20080719094751/http://data.giss.nasa.gov/ > > gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt > > > J-D annual means for 1998 is 56, 2005 is 63 and 2007 is 57 > >http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt > > It's nothing to worry about - just the normal retrochronic effect of CO2 > on temperature. Retrochronic particles have negative mass and negative energy. Who knew they could affect temperature? http://www.savoir-sans-frontieres.com/JPP/telechargeables/English/gemellaire_anglais/twin_universe.pdf --Mike Jr. |