NASA's Dark Energy and Dark Matter
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From: mpc755 on 26 Apr 2010 10:23 On Apr 26, 10:07 am, fitz <zeus...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > NASA's Dark Energy and Dark Matter > > The majority of scientists have no answer for this. > > (click link) > > http://www.amperefitz.com/dark.m.e.htm > > This is simply incredible! > > Fitz http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf "A possible candidate for dark energy that avoids some of the fine- tuning problems associated with the cosmological is quintessence, a very low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the known universe. In addition to its effect on the expansion of the universe, quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible interactions with matter and radiation." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quintessence "quin·tes·sence â â/kwɪnËtÉsÉns/ Show Spelled[kwin-tes-uhns] Show IPA ânoun 1. the pure and concentrated essence of a substance. 2. the most perfect embodiment of something. 3. (in ancient and medieval philosophy) the fifth essence or element, ether, supposed to be the constituent matter of the heavenly bodies" A low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the known universe is aether as a one something. Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Aether is the pure essence of matter. "quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible interactions with matter" Aether interacts with matter by being displaced by matter. The pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter manifests itself as gravity. The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places: http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resources/vortex1_crop.jpg 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that the state of the former is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations; whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute constants for the functions of space which describe the former, disregarding the causes which condition its state." http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter. Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence space effectively âflowsâ towards matter. However this is not a âflowâ of some form of âmatterâ through space, as previously considered in the aether models or in the ârandomâ particulate Le Sage kinetic theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the âflowâ in one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not relative to some a priori background geometrical space" What is described as "space effectively âflowsâ towards matter" is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter.
From: YBM on 26 Apr 2010 10:29 mpc755 wrote: > Aether is the pure essence of matter. and you are the pure essence of imbecility.
From: xxein on 26 Apr 2010 19:40 On Apr 26, 10:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 26, 10:07 am, fitz <zeus...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > NASA's Dark Energy and Dark Matter > xxein: You said: "What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter." Is that a description of gravity? If so, it is terribly wrong. Doesn't the outward pressure of ether expand the universe as well? Doesn't it flow to make galaxies go away from each other? The same as in the pressure that causes ether to flow towards matter? Think of something better than that - although the ether concept does work with gravity if understood correctly. And to Androcles: This is a case of a physical yin yang and not a philosophical one. Learn the difference.
From: Androcles on 26 Apr 2010 19:46 "xxein" <xxein(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:d59871f9-a3ae-4d84-8e4e-e66ee7e1420f(a)k36g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... On Apr 26, 10:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 26, 10:07 am, fitz <zeus...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > NASA's Dark Energy and Dark Matter > xxein: You said: "What is described as "space effectively �flows� towards matter" is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter." Is that a description of gravity? If so, it is terribly wrong. Doesn't the outward pressure of ether expand the universe as well? Doesn't it flow to make galaxies go away from each other? The same as in the pressure that causes ether to flow towards matter? Think of something better than that - although the ether concept does work with gravity if understood correctly. And to Androcles: This is a case of a physical yin yang and not a philosophical one. Learn the difference. ======================================= And to xxein: Aether is not a physic, it is an artefactual superficially imposed yin yang of sorts. Step in front of a bus or learn the difference, din dang.
From: mpc755 on 26 Apr 2010 19:51 On Apr 26, 7:40 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Apr 26, 10:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> On Apr 26, 10:07 am, fitz <zeus...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > NASA's Dark Energy and Dark Matter > > xxein: You said: "What is described as "space effectively flows > towards matter" is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the > matter." > > Is that a description of gravity? If so, it is terribly wrong. > > Doesn't the outward pressure of ether expand the universe as well? The universe is not expanding. The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream. If you rotate the following image 90 degrees so the 'Quantum Fluctuations' is at the bottom then the image is of a pressure cooker. http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html The following images could be interpreted as being images of the universe, or the local universe: http://www.feandft.com/BlackHole.jpg http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif Where the blue disk in the former image and the gray area in the latter image represent the Rindler Horizon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics > Doesn't it flow to make galaxies go away from each other? The aether does not 'flow'. The aether acts as a one something. > The same as > in the pressure that causes ether to flow towards matter? > The aether does not 'flow' towards matter. You missed a very important point in the article: Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 "However this is not a flow of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not relative to some a priori background geometrical space" What I am saying is even the term 'flow' as used here is incorrect. What is being mistaken as a 'flow' is the pressure the aether exerts towards the matter. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the matter is the "ongoing rearrangement of the quantum-foam patterns that form space". "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions" is the state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the aether in neighboring places which is the aether's state of displacement.
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