From: George Kerby on



On 6/21/10 9:04 AM, in article k6su165uvmca1me36k98ba4qfh0fn2cdap(a)4ax.com,
"John Navas" <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:18:04 -0700, in
> <hjst161bkq26rc1djmtl95j7nk0tl7utso(a)4ax.com>, DevilsPGD
> <Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage(a)crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>> In message <Xns9D9CDB7C6F3B8noonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13> Larry
>> <noone(a)home.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>>
>>> John Navas <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>>> news:upkp16ptivt7pef872hu0hr7p815mcibm7(a)4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> To my eyes the Kindle display is much easier to read for long periods of
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> Absolutely! There's no comparison to the Kindle in bright sunlight. The
>>> brighter the sun shines on it, the brighter the display as it's sunlit, not
>>> backlit.
>>
>> Fantastic. Now try that again in a dimly lit plane in a seat with the
>> light unfortunately located slightly ahead of you, or when your partner
>> is sleeping in bed beside you.
>>
>> Neither is ideal in all situations.
>
> True, but the Kindle display is easier to read in the most common
> conditions, and works quite nicely with an Itty Bitty Book Light,
> whereas nothing will help the iPad out in the sun (e.g., at a park
> or the beach).
NavASS, I can see you now with your "Itty Bitty Book Liight" looking for
your "Itty Bitty". LOL!!!

From: nospam on
In article <k6su165uvmca1me36k98ba4qfh0fn2cdap(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >Fantastic. Now try that again in a dimly lit plane in a seat with the
> >light unfortunately located slightly ahead of you, or when your partner
> >is sleeping in bed beside you.
> >
> >Neither is ideal in all situations.
>
> True, but the Kindle display is easier to read in the most common
> conditions,

nope. most people read indoors in less than ideal light, which is why
there are add-on lights for it.

> and works quite nicely with an Itty Bitty Book Light,

'it's not a bug it's a feature.'

> whereas nothing will help the iPad out in the sun (e.g., at a park
> or the beach).

the ipad works fine in sunlight, which if you actually used one you
would know.
From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:04:25 -0700, John Navas <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com>
wrote:

>True, but the Kindle display is easier to read in the most common
>conditions, and works quite nicely with an Itty Bitty Book Light,
>whereas nothing will help the iPad out in the sun (e.g., at a park
>or the beach).

Nothing? The iPad case makes a reasonable sun shade. Not great, but
usable:
<http://theonbutton.com/2010/05/30/ipad-overheating-outdoors-daylight-readable/p1030026/>

The real problem is that the iPad seems to overheat in the sun.
<http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31747_7-20001749-243.html>

A transreflective LCD display, which reflects much of the heat, would
have been soooooo nice.
<http://www.irontech.com/industrial_LCD_displays_for_sunlight.html>
<http://gizmodo.com/5443895/e+ink-is-dead-pixel-qis-amazing-transflective-lcd-just-killed-it>
Maybe when the iDesk (full size table top display) or iWall (wall size
display) arrives from Apple...


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From: John Navas on
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:29:29 -0700, in
<ld0v169o149s2t1vq88p4meeqgaq15s28b(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:04:25 -0700, John Navas <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com>
>wrote:
>
>>True, but the Kindle display is easier to read in the most common
>>conditions, and works quite nicely with an Itty Bitty Book Light,
>>whereas nothing will help the iPad out in the sun (e.g., at a park
>>or the beach).
>
>Nothing? The iPad case makes a reasonable sun shade. Not great, but
>usable:

Not in my opinion.

--
Best regards,
John

If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?
From: DevilsPGD on
In message <k6su165uvmca1me36k98ba4qfh0fn2cdap(a)4ax.com> John Navas
<jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> was claimed to have wrote:

>True, but the Kindle display is easier to read in the most common
>conditions, and works quite nicely with an Itty Bitty Book Light,
>whereas nothing will help the iPad out in the sun (e.g., at a park
>or the beach).

I've used mine at a park on the edge of a beach already once and it
worked fine. I wouldn't take it on a beach though, at least not until I
can decide what is likely worse for the device, sand or water.

The brightness is reasonably adequate, brighter than most LCD panels,
the trick is that instead of looking at it straight-on, tilt the device
5 degrees or so.