From: BillW50 on
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Pawlly Phonic typed on Thu, 13 May 2010 11:48:55 -0700 (PDT):
> On May 13, 9:14 am, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>> Innews:852jc5FnqqU1(a)mid.individual.net,
>> Bigguy typed on Thu, 13 May 2010 16:17:21 +0100:
>>
>>> MacBook Pro. And you can run Windows 7 on it...
>>
>>> G
>>
>> Type in "MacBook Pro woes" under ixquick search engine and you get
>> 615,757 hits. And wasn't it the MacBook Pro was having all of those
>> hard drive and video card failures?
>>
>> And last I heard that only 27% are running Vista or Windows 7. While
>> Windows XP holds the largest number at 63%. And I believe the number
>> of new laptops that comes with Windows 7 on them, about 30% will
>> remove it and put Windows XP on the machine.
>>
>> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qp...
>>
>> --
>> Bill
>> Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
>
> It'll have to be a Windows 7 machine. The user may want to back down
> to XP. XP SP3 is what I'm using right now. But I don't think either
> is more quiet-running. ;)
>
> To the other Bill thanks. The machine I'm currently using (ancient
> underpowered Toshiba) has a "silent mode" feature which winds up
> accomplishing that- the fan will not go on high, the CPU will just
> slow down if it starts to get hot- so in effect the fan is permanently
> on, but on low speed. You remind me to make sure something like that
> feature is available on whatever I wind up with.
>
> Paula

Well you can get quiet and cool running, but I don't think you can get
this and powerful in one package. Because powerful generate lots of heat
and usually requires heavy duty fans. If it doesn't have to be power,
there are lots of choices. And like your Toshiba, some laptops can be
underclocked. And Celerons for example when underclocked by just 30%,
usually don't need a fan running at all. As the heatsink is good enough
to keep it really cool. And I have four of them running underclocked and
even when I turn off the fan, they never get up to 140�F. Which isn't
even near high enough to ever have any heat damage.

Keyboards makes noise too. And if this is a problem, I know some radio
hosts uses those Virtually Indestructible Keyboards. They are totally
quiet. But they are made of rubber and many people find them very hard
to type with. I do too, but they are totally silent. If I type a bit
slower, they seem to work better. So this is another option.

And I believe you also said it will be used on a lap a lot. Now quiet
and little to no fan noise, all makes me say netbook. They work great on
your lap and are really light. And some of them have solid state drives
which means you can move them around a lot without worrying about hard
drive crashes from the head crashing against the platter. So just some
other things to think about.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3


From: Bill on
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<be4cf247-d8d5-449d-a917-29a8d900a0dc(a)m31g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Pawlly Phonic <pawllyphonic(a)gmail.com> writes
>It'll have to be a Windows 7 machine. The user may want to back down
>to XP. XP SP3 is what I'm using right now.

Just for info, I've been playing with XPMode in Windows 7. We even have
it working in a local business to run old accounts software.

For audio, it works OK for playback and editing and allows the use of
very old software, but recording is "unsupported" and very, very iffy or
not at all.

--
Bill
From: Pawlly Phonic on
On May 13, 12:45 pm, Bill <Billabo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> In message
> <be4cf247-d8d5-449d-a917-29a8d900a...(a)m31g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
> Pawlly Phonic <pawllypho...(a)gmail.com> writes
>
> >It'll have to be a Windows 7 machine.  The user may want to back down
> >to XP.  XP SP3 is what I'm using right now.
>
> Just for info, I've been playing with XPMode in Windows 7. We even have
> it working in a local business to run old accounts software.
>
> For audio, it works OK for playback and editing and allows the use of
> very old software, but recording is "unsupported" and very, very iffy or
> not at all.
>
> --
> Bill

Thanks. Won't be recording from the laptop. But re XPMode- is that
64 bit win7 or 32? Will XP mode work with 64?

Paula
From: BillW50 on
In news:rwby8AhabF7LFw4z(a)itsound.demon.co.uk,
Bill typed on Thu, 13 May 2010 20:45:30 +0100:
> In message
> <be4cf247-d8d5-449d-a917-29a8d900a0dc(a)m31g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
> Pawlly Phonic <pawllyphonic(a)gmail.com> writes
>> It'll have to be a Windows 7 machine. The user may want to back down
>> to XP. XP SP3 is what I'm using right now.
>
> Just for info, I've been playing with XPMode in Windows 7. We even
> have it working in a local business to run old accounts software.
>
> For audio, it works OK for playback and editing and allows the use of
> very old software, but recording is "unsupported" and very, very iffy
> or not at all.

This is a very common complaint on Vista and Windows 7 machines. Many of
them (or none at all) can't even access the mixer and use it as a
recording source.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3


From: BillW50 on
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Pawlly Phonic typed on Thu, 13 May 2010 12:56:28 -0700 (PDT):
> On May 13, 12:45 pm, Bill <Billabo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> In message
>> <be4cf247-d8d5-449d-a917-29a8d900a...(a)m31g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
>> Pawlly Phonic <pawllypho...(a)gmail.com> writes
>>
>>> It'll have to be a Windows 7 machine. The user may want to back down
>>> to XP. XP SP3 is what I'm using right now.
>>
>> Just for info, I've been playing with XPMode in Windows 7. We even
>> have it working in a local business to run old accounts software.
>>
>> For audio, it works OK for playback and editing and allows the use of
>> very old software, but recording is "unsupported" and very, very
>> iffy or not at all.
>>
>> --
>> Bill
>
> Thanks. Won't be recording from the laptop. But re XPMode- is that
> 64 bit win7 or 32? Will XP mode work with 64?
>
> Paula

It requires Windows 7 Starter, Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate or
Enterprise edition. And laptop has to be virtualization capable (Intel
VT or AMD-V). And XPM (XP Mode) has 32-bit or 64-bit versions for the
above except only available in 32-bit for Windows 7 Starter.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3