From: Michael A. Terrell on
Jim Thompson wrote:
>
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:42:59 -0700, John Larkin
> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:58:43 +0100, Eeyore
> ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>Don Bowey wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 8/2/06 10:08 PM, in article 44D184CF.F95B86DF(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
> >>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >> Is your education really that bad in England? They got lots of brand
> >>> >> new airplanes that the Russian pilots flew from Ladd Air Force Base in
> >>> >> Alaska, across the Bering Straight into Russia to fight the Germans.
> >>> >> they were built near the west coast, and flown to Alaska by some of the
> >>> >> first women pilots in the US. They were not allowed to fly in war
> >>> >> zones, so they were trained to fly transport missions to move war
> >>> >> materials and planes.
> >>> >
> >>> > That was after war was declared and us Brits *paid* for our airplanes I'll
> >>> > have you know !
> >>> >
> >>> > Graham
> >>>
> >>> Sure. And the tooth fairy gave you the money.
> >>>
> >>> Some times you are really funny.
> >>
> >>Do you know who commisioned and paid for the famous P51 Mustang ? The British !
> >>
> >>When it underperformed with its miserable US Allison engine, who had the bright
> >>idea of putting a *British* Rolls Royce Merlin in instead ? The *British* RAF !
> >>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P51
> >>
> >>Graham
> >
> >This rah-rah nationalism is getting crazy. It's exactly the emotion
> >that starts wars.
> >
> >John
>
> Yep. Time to attack "England" ;-)
>
> Jim Thompson



Shouldn't be too hard. The last time we had it out with them they
were whipped by a bunch of farmers with squirrel guns.


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From: John Fields on
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:28:13 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
<dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:

>> Without direct US aid, the UK would have lost the Battle of Britian -
>> it was won by a razor-edge margin - and the invasion would have been
>> on, and likely successful. Hitler only turned east when Goring
>> couldn't subdue the RAF.
>
>That would still have been the position if the US had stayed out of the
>European war.
>
>>> The British Empire would have had time to fully militarise,
>>
>> They were fully militarized early in the war. Their resources were
>> very limited.
>
>Not so.
>Britain was not 'up to speed' until 1943.
>The resources of the Empire would have taken longer to fully utilise for
>the war. India alone could have supplied men for an army of millions
>given time.

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LOL, given enough time, typewriters, and monkeys, the Britannica
would emerge, miraculously, from those platens,

Get real, Bruere, are you saying that England could have won the war
without the help of the US?


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
John Fields wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:28:13 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>
>>> Without direct US aid, the UK would have lost the Battle of Britian -
>>> it was won by a razor-edge margin - and the invasion would have been
>>> on, and likely successful. Hitler only turned east when Goring
>>> couldn't subdue the RAF.
>> That would still have been the position if the US had stayed out of the
>> European war.
>>
>>>> The British Empire would have had time to fully militarise,
>>> They were fully militarized early in the war. Their resources were
>>> very limited.
>> Not so.
>> Britain was not 'up to speed' until 1943.
>> The resources of the Empire would have taken longer to fully utilise for
>> the war. India alone could have supplied men for an army of millions
>> given time.
>
> ---
> LOL, given enough time, typewriters, and monkeys, the Britannica
> would emerge, miraculously, from those platens,
>
> Get real, Bruere, are you saying that England could have won the war
> without the help of the US?

Not without the material imports from the US, but Britain might have
come out of WW2 in far better shape had the US not joined in militarily.
That would have left the USSR crushed, Nazi Germany severely weakened
and the British Empire intact.

By 1943 Britain was producing weapons at a rate comparable to Nazi
occupied Europe.

Dirk

From: John Fields on
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:26:26 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
<dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:

>> If so, how do you explain what a mess the world had been for, say, the
>> previous 1000 years? Could it have been, just maybe, somebody else's
>> doing?
>
>As opposed to the mess it is now?
>Just shows that the US has changed nothing.
>In 1000 years the only thing the US will be remembered for will be the
>moon landings. Not its brief shot at empire before the Chinese dominated
>the globe.

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Yeah, like we're just going to sit back and let that happen?


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on
On 3 Aug 2006 17:39:03 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote:


>Next they'll try to blame the Balkans mess on the US.....
>Europe seems to be very good at ignoring things until they blow up in their
>faces.Then the US has to bail them out.

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Yup.

It's like like having to care for parents with dementia.


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer