From: Phat Bytestard on
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:07:26 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us:

>
>
>Phat Bytestard wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:22:10 +0100, John Woodgate
>> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> Gave us:
>>
>> >Well, maybe by 2040, but there are some real oldies still flying now.
>> >WW1 stuff.
>>
>> "still in service" does not refer to "owned by some dude, and he
>> still flies it". It refers to still being in military service.
>
>None of those airframes will date from the inception of the B52 programme.
>

The last B-52 made was in the fall of '62.

Do some math, chump.
From: Phat Bytestard on
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:15:49 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us:

>I guess he might be referring to the Battle of Britain ? Had Britain fallen there
>wouldn't even have been a party to come to, never mind arrive late.
>

You would never have been born.
From: Don Bowey on
On 8/5/06 9:52 AM, in article 44D4CCBA.9EF63649(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> On 8/4/06 9:38 PM, in article 44D420C8.60B0AA98(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And let's also remember that Turkey is one of the least democratic countries
>>> in the region
>>
>> Do you have some facts for that? What are the criteria for the ranking?
>
> Good Lord man, it's *legendary* for it ! It's not that long ago it was still
> ruled
> by the military.
>
> " In the early morning hours of September 12, 1980, the armed forces seized
> control of the country "
> http://countrystudies.us/turkey/17.htm
>
>
>> Personally, I don't care how a country governs itself as long as its people
>> aren't abused. When the "means of production" are limited, such as in the
>> far east, Communism may best for a country.
>
> As for abuse, Turkey is legendary for poor human rights issues.
> http://hrw.org/doc/?t=europe&c=turkey
>
>
>> You have the intelligence of a donkey.
>
> You're simply uninformed / misinformed. Like most Americans it seems.
>
> Graham
>
>

Those references are ok, but you and I see things very differently.

I have a friend who spent military time in Turkey during some of the time of
military control of the government. He wasn't pleased to see armed military
men being police, but it was a safe place to be.

If the military had not taken control it's hard to imagine how bad the
country would have fallen apart. Given the conditions, I believe the
military leadership was instrumental in holding the country together, while
working to achieve another civilian government. Why would we *not* support
this effort? You seem to be saying the UK did not offer support to them
during those bad times. I think shame on your government.

I'm not as well informed about multi-cultural countries as I would like, but
I follow it as well as I can. Without walking a mile in their shoes, how
can I or you really understand the fine points? When each of the cultures
want aspects of their religion embedded in the Country's laws, there is a
constant festering in the skin of culture.

I believe Bush would like to have some element of religion put in our
government, but I don't see that happening, because it would be so divisive.
We will be well rid of him when his term ends.

By the way.... Three cheers for Tony Blair......




From: Don Bowey on
On 8/5/06 10:06 AM, in article 44D4D014.FBEF2F00(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> Also, you should not put a space at the end of a sentence ahead of the
>> punctuation.
>
> You don't like this ? Tough ! I do it for readability.
>
> Graham
>
..No ,be my guest .It just looks uneducated .Oh ?That describes you
doesn't it

From: John Fields on
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:53:18 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>One thing I've noticed about Americans from the newsgroups is that they are very
>hostile to thoughts different to their own and very aggressive about defending
>their position ( including of course the use of personal abuse at an early stage
>). Not amenable to rational discussion much at all.

---
If one isn't willing to defend one's position, then that position
will be lost, American or not. The more important one considers
one's position to be, the more aggressively one will fight to defend
that position, American or not.

Rationality has little to do with it if the position is dearly held,
since admitting defeat and having to start over again is painful.

Before this is all over, I suspect you'll be fighting tooth and nail
in order to keep from having to admit that your position wasn't as
firm as you thought it was, as evidenced by your trying to up your
ante by hanging on to JW's coattails.
---

>Just try pointing out the vastly lower murder rate in the UK compared to the USA
>on account of the few guns in circulation or our lower road death figures due to
>better understanding of road safety issues, better road layout and a better
>educated driving public and you're in for a treat !

---
The reasons we have a higher murder rate than most of the rest of
the world isn't because we have more guns, it's because we took:


"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to
breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


to heart, and let a lot of the wretched refuse in.

We also once had a large internal population of freed slaves whose
descendants have multiplied and are now at war with each other and
the Union. To what end, God only knows, but they keep killing each
other off.

Oh, well...

Eventually, it'll be the Hispanics who'll be in charge.

Or not...

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer