From: Eeyore on


Phat Bytestard wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:23:11 -0700, John Larkin
> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:
>
> >Well, then, what has happened in the last 50 years to produce such an
> >unprecedented change?
>
> Oh... wait a minute! He'll give credit to the terrorists for that
> one!

Don't be so moronic ! I know it's tricky for you to avoid.


Graham


From: John Fields on
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:40:03 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:16:09 +0100, John Woodgate
>> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >In message <c687d254mpenqg62t5jc453oqrp9l6sijr(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4
>> >Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
>> >
>> >>In any case, lucky for you that we got dragged into it when we did, no?
>> >
>> >Yes. Some would say 'providential'. With a capital P, indeed.
>>
>> ---
>> Providential for us, as well, that you were there since you helped
>> us in _our_ war with Germany.
>
>That's the most sane thing I think you've said so far in this thread.

---
So the rest of my stuff is insane because you don't agree with it?
;)


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:24:12 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >John Larkin wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:12:59 +0100, Eeyore
> >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >More for you....
> >> >
> >> >BAE Systems - A Key Partner on the F-35 JSF Program............................
> >> >
> >> >BAE Systems is a major UK industrial participant, investing $72M upfront in the
> >> >Concept Development Phase (CDP) and $65M in UK JSF facilities during SDD [ System
> >> >Development and Demonstration Phase ]
> >> >
> >> >http://www.baesystems.com/facts/programmes/airsystems/jsf.htm
> >> >
> >> >Graham
> >>
> >> BAE has fairly extensive operations in the US, too. We work with one
> >> group that's doing B-52 radar upgrades; they were Sanders Associates
> >> before being acquired by BAE. They tell me that, because of security
> >> rules, they can tell me stuff they aren't allowed to communicate to
> >> the home office in Europe.
> >
> >How widely known is it that the largest overseas investor in the USA is Britain btw ?
> >
> >
> >> The B-52's are scheduled to be retired in 2040, at which time they'll
> >> be 80 years old.
> >
> >Astonishing longevity. It's actually the design that's that old - nothing made back then
> >is still in line service though. Mainly the H and maybe some G models flying now IIRC.
> >C130s been around a while too and not much has come along to challenge it although
> >Airbus do have an A400M they'd like to develop.
>
> We're working on C130 upgrades too, another interesting British
> connection. We're upgrading a system that was built by GEC in the late
> 80's, full of discrete logic and of byzantine complexity, down to 22
> hours MTBF and unmaintainable. It has so much BIST that it barely
> works at all. A couple of VME modules loaded with a few FPGAs should
> fix things up nicely.

The military has now seen the wisdom of COTS.

One very interesting instance was the fitting of genuinely state of the art DSP sonar in the
RN hunter-killer subs just before they were dispatched to the Falklands. Done in about a week
IIRC !

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Phat Bytestard wrote:

> Two companies competed for the design

Two consortia actually.

Graham

From: John Woodgate on
In message <ecu9d2ll11uhp2l1ka33ccthgpfmvdkuc2(a)4ax.com>, dated Sat, 5
Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes
>As the oldest still in service airframe in history.

Well, maybe by 2040, but there are some real oldies still flying now.
WW1 stuff.
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