From: joseph2k on
Frank Bemelman wrote:

> "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
> news:3b57d2dc0pue0e65eqg504b9d9ljfig8ci(a)4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:55:24 +0100, Eeyore
>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>John Fields wrote:
>>
>>>> ---
>>>> It will. Any society which worships death is bound to die. Either
>>>> through suicide or "death by cop".
>>>
>>>Islam doesn't worship death. You misunderstanding is a classic example of
>>>how
>>>the USA gets it wrong, by being over-simplistic about every issue.
>>
>> ---
>> See, that's part of what I mean by "America Bashing."
>>
>> I may be wrong about Islam's (or its practitioners') apparent
>> penchant for death, (although, reduced to its simplest terms, I
>> doubt it) but then you take _my_ error and try to make it seem like
>> it applies it to the entire country as if _I_ was all of America,
>> and then tag it with your own simplisic oversimplification of the
>> situation in order to try to make it seem like we're a nation of
>> misguided fools and all we have to do is listen to the likes of you
>> and everything will be all right.
>
> Okay, so you're telling the US is not a nations of fools, and that
> you are just one of the fools that exist in every nation.
>
> Sounds fair enough. Actually, I never thought of the USA as a
> nation of fools, at least not until that nation voted for
> Bush for the *2ND* time. I mean, his first election can be
> called an honest mistake, but how can a nation continue to
> follow such an insane leader with such dangerous ideas? That
> is *very* hard to understand.
>

Mostly Agreed, after i stumped against him both times followed by voting
against him both times. I personally saw that he was a dangerous lunatic.

--
JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.  
--Schiller
From: joseph2k on
John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <44d3a2ff$0$11330$e4fe514c(a)dreader28.news.xs4all.nl>, dated
> Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Frank Bemelman <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> writes
>>I mean, his first election can be called an honest mistake, but how can
>>a nation continue to follow such an insane leader with such dangerous
>>ideas?
>
> By comparison with some previous Presidents, Bush is a genius and the
> epitome of sanity. Look up accounts of some of the pre-WWII presidents,
> back to the 19th century.

Give me some backup please. After Nixon that is a really strong assertion
to make.

--
JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.  
--Schiller
From: joseph2k on
Eeyore wrote:

>
>
> Phat Bytestard wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:32:06 +0100, John Woodgate
>> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> Gave us:
>>
>> >In message <l3i7d2t6hnppubng26c12m121klnu976pd(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4
>> >Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
>> >
>> >>I see no reason why presidential (in fact, _all_) elections couldn't be
>> >>carried out on-line where the result would truly be popular.
>> >
>> >The reason is that 'big money' would lose a great deal of its present
>> >control over the result.
>>
>> Lobbyism SHOULD be dead.
>
> Lobbying is inevitable in any democratic system. Indeed, its part of the
> process.
>

It is inevitable in _any_ government.

>
>> Our "statesmen" should be doing what the people want, not what some
>> palm greasing, stitch some velvet in your pocket thugs want them to
>> do.
>
> So remove the big money then. What goes on in the USA during campaigning
> wouldn't be legal in the Europe you apparently despise so much precisely
> because we've addressed these issues.
>
> Graham

The only way to eliminate big money is to eliminate money. Not an
achievable goal (AFAIK), as it will be immediately replaced by influence,
quickly leading to a re-creation of money under another name.

--
JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.  
--Schiller
From: John Woodgate on
In message <iuZCg.4612$%j7.1350(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, dated Fri,
11 Aug 2006, joseph2k <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> writes
>Personally i use Democreeps. It better reflects their socially
>necrotizing policies.

Similar to our Dither-all Lemoncrats.
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2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely.

John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: Eeyore on


krw wrote:

> In article <44DBB830.DEE02B8A(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>,
> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com says...
> >
> >
> > John Fields wrote:
> >
> > > But, he won't be financed unless he's viable in the first place.
> >
> > Tou *still* don't get it do you ?
> >
> > Financing *makes* for viability !
>
> Like always, you have the world upside-down. Money seeks people
> who agree with them, not the other way around.

It works both ways round actually.

Graham