From: joseph2k on 11 Aug 2006 07:12 Frank Bemelman wrote: > "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht > news:3b57d2dc0pue0e65eqg504b9d9ljfig8ci(a)4ax.com... >> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:55:24 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>John Fields wrote: >> >>>> --- >>>> It will. Any society which worships death is bound to die. Either >>>> through suicide or "death by cop". >>> >>>Islam doesn't worship death. You misunderstanding is a classic example of >>>how >>>the USA gets it wrong, by being over-simplistic about every issue. >> >> --- >> See, that's part of what I mean by "America Bashing." >> >> I may be wrong about Islam's (or its practitioners') apparent >> penchant for death, (although, reduced to its simplest terms, I >> doubt it) but then you take _my_ error and try to make it seem like >> it applies it to the entire country as if _I_ was all of America, >> and then tag it with your own simplisic oversimplification of the >> situation in order to try to make it seem like we're a nation of >> misguided fools and all we have to do is listen to the likes of you >> and everything will be all right. > > Okay, so you're telling the US is not a nations of fools, and that > you are just one of the fools that exist in every nation. > > Sounds fair enough. Actually, I never thought of the USA as a > nation of fools, at least not until that nation voted for > Bush for the *2ND* time. I mean, his first election can be > called an honest mistake, but how can a nation continue to > follow such an insane leader with such dangerous ideas? That > is *very* hard to understand. > Mostly Agreed, after i stumped against him both times followed by voting against him both times. I personally saw that he was a dangerous lunatic. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: joseph2k on 11 Aug 2006 07:16 John Woodgate wrote: > In message <44d3a2ff$0$11330$e4fe514c(a)dreader28.news.xs4all.nl>, dated > Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Frank Bemelman <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> writes >>I mean, his first election can be called an honest mistake, but how can >>a nation continue to follow such an insane leader with such dangerous >>ideas? > > By comparison with some previous Presidents, Bush is a genius and the > epitome of sanity. Look up accounts of some of the pre-WWII presidents, > back to the 19th century. Give me some backup please. After Nixon that is a really strong assertion to make. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: joseph2k on 11 Aug 2006 07:29 Eeyore wrote: > > > Phat Bytestard wrote: > >> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:32:06 +0100, John Woodgate >> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> Gave us: >> >> >In message <l3i7d2t6hnppubng26c12m121klnu976pd(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4 >> >Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes >> > >> >>I see no reason why presidential (in fact, _all_) elections couldn't be >> >>carried out on-line where the result would truly be popular. >> > >> >The reason is that 'big money' would lose a great deal of its present >> >control over the result. >> >> Lobbyism SHOULD be dead. > > Lobbying is inevitable in any democratic system. Indeed, its part of the > process. > It is inevitable in _any_ government. > >> Our "statesmen" should be doing what the people want, not what some >> palm greasing, stitch some velvet in your pocket thugs want them to >> do. > > So remove the big money then. What goes on in the USA during campaigning > wouldn't be legal in the Europe you apparently despise so much precisely > because we've addressed these issues. > > Graham The only way to eliminate big money is to eliminate money. Not an achievable goal (AFAIK), as it will be immediately replaced by influence, quickly leading to a re-creation of money under another name. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: John Woodgate on 11 Aug 2006 07:34 In message <iuZCg.4612$%j7.1350(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, dated Fri, 11 Aug 2006, joseph2k <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> writes >Personally i use Democreeps. It better reflects their socially >necrotizing policies. Similar to our Dither-all Lemoncrats. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: Eeyore on 11 Aug 2006 07:42
krw wrote: > In article <44DBB830.DEE02B8A(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com says... > > > > > > John Fields wrote: > > > > > But, he won't be financed unless he's viable in the first place. > > > > Tou *still* don't get it do you ? > > > > Financing *makes* for viability ! > > Like always, you have the world upside-down. Money seeks people > who agree with them, not the other way around. It works both ways round actually. Graham |