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From: timite_h on 1 Jun 2006 09:33 > Even though 1 Sony UMPC (price) = 15 of 49G+ ? Yes it is true that the UMPC is a bit excessive for a calculator but it should be possible to have intermediate design such as the Sharp Zaurus or something like a more powerful TI-Nspire. > But surely schools (which are already banning cell phones) > will ban the even more distracting UMPCs, > and will then embrace the 50G (so long as it remains > so primitive as to have neither a camera nor text messaging :) Unless i am wrong schools are more likely embracing TI calculators then HP calculators. Moreover they will certainly choose the TI-Nspire over the HP50G as the former seems much more taylored to their needs than the latter. John H Meyers a écrit : > On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:58:42 -0500: > > > With computers like the Sony ux180P if hp does not change > > they will be buried by this technology. > > Even though 1 Sony UMPC (price) = 15 of 49G+ ? > > But surely schools (which are already banning cell phones) > will ban the even more distracting UMPCs, > and will then embrace the 50G (so long as it remains > so primitive as to have neither a camera nor text messaging :) > > > "Like a great poet, > Nature is capable of producing the most stunning effects > with the smallest means" [Henrich Heine (1797-1856)]
From: Han on 1 Jun 2006 15:08 > According to me all educationnal graphing calculators(high end and low > end) should have nowadays this minimum: > *A high resolution touch sensitive screen A high resolution screen is fine. However, there is no point for touch sensitive screen. Part of the reason why calculators are not obsoleted by PDAs with the same software is because of the keyboard (many keys that provide one single button press whereas a touch screen interface would require extra menu navigation). Moreover, the cost would be higher, and if there should be any repairs needed for the screen, that cost would be higher as well. There are solutions currently available to do what you want. Many PDAs are currently able to run Emu48 or some variant of it; yet you still see a high demand for the actual calculator on, say, eBay (and I don't mean just the HP48GX models). > *A more graphic interface to fully take advantage of touch sensitive > screen This may be nice for educational purposes (i.e. teaching tool) but it only slows down productivity. On an exam, I would rather be spending my time solving problems and not navigating menu systems. The HP49 series didn't quite get it right. It was nice to have the choice between graphical vs menu interface; however, the keyboard layout seems to cater to the graphical interface. > *A decent keyboard as the touch screen must be an improvement to > calculators and shouldn't remove one good feature of calculators:a > great keyboard for computations A great keyboard is really the only manual input needed. > *Pretty Print and Equation Writer even for purely numeric calculators > Agreed.
From: ME on 2 Jun 2006 01:30 Computers like the UX180P will be cheaper and more familiar to the average kid. When I take a calc with me and do work in public teenagers usually think that I am playing the latest electronic game till they see that the display is a primitive monochrome low res screen even if they can't understand wants on it. It will be difficult to train the play station generation to replace us if they would look at the 50G+ as if it is as primitive as a slide rule. "John H Meyers" <jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote in message news:op.tagawcngnn735j(a)news.cis.dfn.de... > On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:58:42 -0500: > >> With computers like the Sony ux180P if hp does not change >> they will be buried by this technology. > > Even though 1 Sony UMPC (price) = 15 of 49G+ ? > > But surely schools (which are already banning cell phones) > will ban the even more distracting UMPCs, > and will then embrace the 50G (so long as it remains > so primitive as to have neither a camera nor text messaging :) > > > "Like a great poet, > Nature is capable of producing the most stunning effects > with the smallest means" [Henrich Heine (1797-1856)]
From: John H Meyers on 2 Jun 2006 03:07 On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:30:41 -0500: > It will be difficult to train the play station generation > to replace us if... Perhaps the decline of present civilization can be halted simply by HP's producing calculators that cater to it; what a huge responsibility to fall on such an unlikely sector of society. Well, it wouldn't be the first time that a tech toy turned out to be crucial to the future of the galaxy... http://imdb.com/title/tt0087597/plotsummary
From: timite_h on 2 Jun 2006 03:29
I agree,i have myself head aches when i see how advanced are actual mobile phones in comparaison of those released only a few years ago and when i see how similar are calculators compared to those released almost a dozen of years ago. The same kind of screen,the same kind of speed,the same kind of software,etc... ME wrote: > Computers like the UX180P will be cheaper and more familiar to the average > kid. When I take a calc with me and do work in public teenagers usually > think that I am playing the latest electronic game till they see that the > display is a primitive monochrome low res screen even if they can't > understand wants on it. It will be difficult to train the play station > generation to replace us if they would look at the 50G+ as if it is as > primitive as a slide rule. > "John H Meyers" <jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid> wrote in message > news:op.tagawcngnn735j(a)news.cis.dfn.de... > > On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:58:42 -0500: > > > >> With computers like the Sony ux180P if hp does not change > >> they will be buried by this technology. > > > > Even though 1 Sony UMPC (price) = 15 of 49G+ ? > > > > But surely schools (which are already banning cell phones) > > will ban the even more distracting UMPCs, > > and will then embrace the 50G (so long as it remains > > so primitive as to have neither a camera nor text messaging :) > > > > > > "Like a great poet, > > Nature is capable of producing the most stunning effects > > with the smallest means" [Henrich Heine (1797-1856)] |