No USB ports on Ipad!
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From: JEDIDIAH on 29 Mar 2010 17:45 On 2010-03-29, ZnU <znu(a)fake.invalid> wrote: > > > In article <eo3387-8o5.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, > Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> -hh wrote: >> >> > Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...(a)gmail.com> wrote: [deletia] >> Of course, one could extend your logic. After all, the screen is >> usually the most fragile part, so, because there is some risk of it >> being damaged, we should abolish the screen, rather than, oh, include it >> on the theory someone might actually want to *use* a bog-standard >> interface device. That *is* your argument, right? That because a USB >> dongle _might_ lead to damages, this explains the asinine decision not >> to incldue it, despite it being nigh-on necessary for devices such as >> this? >> >> Yes, well, one can see the Apple Fan Club is out in full swing tonight. >> Must be a full moon. > > You're calling a USB port "nigh-on necessary" for the iPad, but it's > already clear they're going to sell millions of units without one. If Billions and Billions sold. [deletia] -- I was format shifting in the 70s. ||| / | \
From: JF Mezei on 29 Mar 2010 18:10 Kelsey Bjarnason wrote: > There goes that Apple elitism again. The notion someone would *choose* > to sleep in a van in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a hotel, > *must* mean no money, no means. The Apple elite, with our lighted vanity Apple logos on our laptops do not mind if anyone wants to rough it in the countryside in a tent without the luxury of OS-X or an unibody aluminium casing. Similarly, those who like camping shouldn't bash those who like to stay at 5* hotels. Staying in a tent does get you closer to nature and many things take longer to get done (digging your own latrine, filtering your water, cooking your own meals (and carrying all your food in a backpack). But to many, staying in a 5* hotel means they can concentrate on what they have to do and not spend time digging latrines or cooking their own meals. The beauty of OS-X is that when you want to rough it, you can because it is Unix under the hood and you can get to the command line and install all sorts of unix utilities. But when you need to be in a black tie suit at a formal event with all the pomp, pagentry and glitz, you can do that too.
From: Hadron on 30 Mar 2010 14:38 nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> writes: > In article <0nr487-255.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason > <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Not that Apple hasn't done stupid stuff, but somehow this whole discussion >> > reminds me of the nonsense that was going on in this newsgroup when the >> > iMac introduced to the world the concept of the computer with no floppy >> > drive. "With all the software out there that comes on 3.5 inch floppy >> > disks, how could anyone ever possibly function without one?" >> >> Don't recall that discussion, but yeah, if they were putting out a box >> with no floppy *in an era where the floppy was commonly used*, that >> would have been stupid. > > in 1998, floppy disc consumption was dropping dramatically and one of > the floppy disc factories closed down. plus, the imac wasn't the first > mac without a floppy anyway. many people had files that *didn't fit* on > a single floppy. Many people had files which didn't fit on a single floppy? Wow. Incredible. Thanks for sharing that piece of techy wizardry!
From: Eric on 31 Mar 2010 09:36 In article <goe1r5dn66kcamvhsm1a4tbhhap1dbri9r(a)4ax.com>, chrisv <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > gl4317(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > >Someone has to be the first to start moving away from the old standard. > > Gods, you people are STUPID. > > USB is not an "old standard" that needs to be "moved away from". It's > a standard in its *prime*, thus should be supported. USB is also a Master - Slave connection, in which the implicit assumption is that the computer is the Master and the peripheral the Slave. That is part of the USB standard. Since iPods, iPhones and iPads sync with a computer, this makes them peripherals. They have no business supporting other USB peripherals at all. Only pragmatism lets them run even a camera connector.
From: Peter Köhlmann on 31 Mar 2010 09:47
Eric wrote: > In article <goe1r5dn66kcamvhsm1a4tbhhap1dbri9r(a)4ax.com>, > chrisv <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> gl4317(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >Someone has to be the first to start moving away from the old >> >standard. >> >> Gods, you people are STUPID. >> >> USB is not an "old standard" that needs to be "moved away from". It's >> a standard in its *prime*, thus should be supported. > > USB is also a Master - Slave connection, in which the implicit > assumption is that the computer is the Master and the peripheral the > Slave. That is part of the USB standard. Since iPods, iPhones and iPads > sync with a computer, this makes them peripherals. They have no business > supporting other USB peripherals at all. Only pragmatism lets them run > even a camera connector. And you have the problem that you think that the iPad is just a rather dumb peripheral (which it is) and about as far away from being a "computer" as it possibly could be, so you can't decide if it should be a "master" or "slave" But even as that dumb peripheral it would be greatly enhanced by getting a USB connector, to connect it to some "real" computer -- Your depth of comprehension may tend to make you lax in worldly ways. |