From: Gordon Darling on
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:18:17 +0100, za kAT wrote:

> On 18 Apr 2010 23:12:01 GMT, Gordon Darling wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:09:28 +0100, za kAT wrote:
>>
>>> On 18 Apr 2010 22:46:10 GMT, Gordon Darling wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Pity Watney's is no longer. I loved it."
>>>
>>> Unforgivable.
>>
>> Yeah, but the Party Sevens were fun if you shook them up first!
>
> They were offensive weapons, even if you only drunk the contents...

That I would have to totally agree with!





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From: Hito Shirezu on
Bear Bottoms wrote:

> Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:831cc3Fv78U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of the many lies you told was that Intel's 3945 wireless chipset
>>>> isn't fully supported; you haven't retracted that lie despite it
>>>> having been thoroughly debunked in this thread.
>>>
>>> It was a quote dude. LOL.
>>
>> And that is yet another lie. LOL.
>>
>>
> You are again wrong.
> "The IPW3945 WiFi card still isn’t fully supported under linux"
> http://www.leghumped.com/blog/inspiron-9400/

Over four years old.

And what's most embarrassing is that the part about IPW3945 drivers being
unavailable is actually faded and crossed out, and superseded with text
that says the driver is now available. That revision is dated the 10th of
June, 2006. Sorry but no, I'm not kidding. Look for yourself.

Here's your towel, traveler.

> Here is another one:
>
> "The 3945 is supported natively but the driver will not work without the
> non-oss firmware and intel wireless daemon, which can make for a
> needlessly frustrating install (um, I have the driver, why isnt it
> working?)."
>
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_New_Intel_PRO_Wireless_3945ABG_Driver

Over three years old.

And the second comment posted goes:

"I don't know about other dists (or home-built kernels), but on Ubuntu
Edgy, it works perfectly out of the box."

Another towel for you, traveler?

Yes, good ol' Ubuntu. The distro you explicitly call out as not working.
The distro which all along optionally loaded the proper driver and daemon
without a snag, and now does the same automagically with fully non-
proprietary OSS modules at install time /or/ after adding hardware with
an Intel 3945ABG chip set. The distro which has handled the 3945 cleanly
since before the Inspiron 9400 even came to be, as evidenced by your own
blessed cites for Christ's sake, not to mention the somewhat older than
that 3945ABG-equipped Toshiba Satellite I'm running Ubuntu on right this
very instant.

The laptop that's running 9.10 Karmic at present, dutifully upgraded all
the way from 6.04 Edgy I believe. That would be the spring 2006 release
in case you're not familiar with Canonical's versioning conventions, and
I've had nary a problem at all with wireless save for having to accept
the installation of the aforementioned drivers specifically by skillfully
maneuvering a pointer over an ACCEPT button one time and boldly pressing
the 1 button, in the past. But not today.

With just that modicum of attention and hand eye coordination it's been
flaw free operation all the way, and as a bonus I can today access
gearhead features of the chip set most people couldn't care less about
like throwing the card into passive mode, which just can't be accessed at
all under Windows.

Yes sir, good old Ubuntu. You just have to love Canonical, don't you? :)
From: Hito Shirezu on
Bear Bottoms wrote:

> Hito Shirezu <none(a)server.invalid> wrote in
> news:hqg7td$ip1$1(a)news.eternal- september.org:
>
>> Yes sir, good old Ubuntu. You just have to love Canonical, don't you?
>
> Tell ya what, you and I can remote connect and I'll install Ubuntu...you
> can watch me download the image, disconnect and I'll install it,
> reconnect via hard wire and you can see for yourself.

And you believe that will prove what? That you're not just flat out lying
about Ubuntu not working with your individual wireless adapter?

It won't even prove that. Lord knows what you do during your disconnect
down time. I wouldn't be able to see the all important installation, and
so certainly won't be able to help sort out your issue if it's rooted in
your inattentiveness at install time. And given your behavior in this
group I wouldn't put it past you to purposefully rig things to make it
look like you aren't just flat out lying. You're simply not trustworthy.

Nobody's really saying your claim is a complete lie anyway. It's
absolutely possible that your hardware is wonky or you've cocked up a
BIOS setting or something, and not at all hard to believe that someone
with your skill set could booger up a simple install. I mean, for God's
sake man you don't even bother reading your own cites when you blurt them
out in defense of your foolishness, and they end up making you look
positively mongoloid when they blatantly contradict you, so it's no real
stretch from that, to you blowing through an OS installation like a
trained chimp and missing something important.

But irrespective of whether your personal issues have roots in inaptness,
integrity, or are a valid problem with your particular hardware, your
dogged adherence to your "Ubuntu doesn't work with the 3845" rubbish is
just plain bullshit. Even your own offerings prove that to be a complete
falsehood, which makes you nothing but a trifling, vindictive, immature
child. You're 100% wrong and everyone including you knows it, but you
don't have the balls to man up and say OK, I made a mistake.

That's the particular nut you need to crack at the moment, Bottoms. The
real root cause of all your problems here, and most assuredly the bulk of
the problems you experience in all facets of what you call a life.

<hint hint>
From: Serak on

"Hito Shirezu" <none(a)server.invalid> wrote in message
news:hqgqit$mio$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...

Clap clap.. Nail on the head and all that..



Lew

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From: Franklin on
Bear Bottoms wrote:

> Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:831cc3Fv78U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of the many lies you told was that Intel's 3945 wireless chipset
>>>> isn't fully supported; you haven't retracted that lie despite it
>>>> having been thoroughly debunked in this thread.
>>>
>>> It was a quote dude. LOL.
>>
>> And that is yet another lie. LOL.
>>
>
> You are again wrong.
> "The IPW3945 WiFi card still isn�t fully supported under linux"
> http://www.leghumped.com/blog/inspiron-9400/
>
>
> Here is another one:
>
> "The 3945 is supported natively but the driver will not work without the
> non-oss firmware and intel wireless daemon, which can make for a
> needlessly frustrating install (um, I have the driver, why isnt it
> working?)."
>
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_New_Intel_PRO_Wireless_3945ABG_Driver
>

One poster on your quoted page says:

"This card [IPW3945] has worked very easily ... on every distro I have tried.
Currently flawless ... "