From: Mark Warner on
Bear Bottoms wrote:
> Mark Warner wrote:
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> Mark Warner wrote:
>>>> Then it must come down to the fact that you're an idiot or a liar.
>>>> Or both.
>>> More contradiction coupled with the luzer tactic: insults. I thought
>>> you claimed Unbuntu handled wifi for the Inspiron 9400 out of the
>>> box.
>> The Intel card has support built into the kernel, distro
>> notwithstanding. Out of the box.
>>> It does not.
>> Lie.
>
> If it did, when I installed Ubuntu, my wifi would work. It does not.

Try Mint. Or PCLinuxOS. Or SimplyMEPIS. Surely you'll be able to figure
one of those out.

--
Mark Warner
goin' mobile with PCLinuxOS
Registered Linux User #415318
....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: »Q« on
In <news:Xns9D5C7713219ADbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247>,
Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:

> Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote in
> news:82rg3aFee9U1(a)mid.individual.net:
>
> > Bear Bottoms wrote:
> >> Mark Warner wrote :
> >>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are saying this is included in Unbuntu out of the box,
> >>>> then it falls short.
> >>>
> >>> It's in the kernel. Has been since January 08.
> >>>
> >>> http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_24
> >>
> >> Like I said, it falls short.
> >
> > *It* doesn't, /you/ do.
>
> I know you like having your fun, but it doesn't change the fact that
> what you are saying contridicts what you are claiming.
>
> To help clarify: After an installation of Unbuntu, my wifi does not
> work.

It's fair enough to say that, assuming you're not lying again. But you
jumped to other conclusions which are demonstrably false.

> I have tried many suggestions to try and get it to work, but
> have not been able to. If it worked out of the box, I wouldn't have
> to do any of that would I. That is the contradiction.

That doesn't contradict what Warner said, Bottoms. It confirms what
Warner said about you.
From: »Q« on
In <news:Xns9D5BDD55C602Ebearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247>,
Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:

> I've found various people who said they had fixes but: The IPW3945
> WiFi card still isn't fully supported under linux.

Actually, it is. It has been for years.

> Here was one that didn't work:
>
> "It turns out that the iwl3945 firmware that ships with Karmic has a
> bug that prevents the Intel wifi from connecting if the access point
> offers WPA2 encryption with AES as a possibility for security. To fix
> this bug, follow these steps:

That has *nothing* do do with your erroneous claim that the IPW3945
isn't fully supported under Linux.

If you can't use your wifi card, that's too bad for you, but pretending
that the problem is lack of support under Linux is silly FUDding.
From: »Q« on
In <news:Xns9D5C8A93ACC34bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247>,
Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:

> Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote in
> news:82rnp2Fu0sU1(a)mid.individual.net:
>
> > Bear Bottoms wrote:
> >> Mark Warner wrote:

> > The Intel card has support built into the kernel, distro
> > notwithstanding. Out of the box.
> >
> >> It does not.
> >
> > Lie.
>
> If it did, when I installed Ubuntu, my wifi would work.

That doesn't follow.

AFAICT from reading your leaps of illogic, you must be clinging to some
very basic misconceptions about what Linux is and what computers do,
but it's tough to figure out what your misconceptions are when all we
see are the wrong conclusions you draw from them.




From: Why Tea on
On Apr 17, 12:27 pm, »Q« <boxc...(a)gmx.net> wrote:
> In <news:Xns9D5C8A93ACC34bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247>,
>
> Bear Bottoms <bearbotto...(a)gmai.com> wrote:
> > Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibiti...(a)gmail.com> wrote in
> >news:82rnp2Fu0sU1(a)mid.individual.net:
>
> > > Bear Bottoms wrote:
> > >> Mark Warner wrote:
> > > The Intel card has support built into the kernel, distro
> > > notwithstanding. Out of the box.
>
> > >> It does not.
>
> > > Lie.
>
> > If it did, when I installed Ubuntu, my wifi would work.
>
> That doesn't follow.
>
> AFAICT from reading your leaps of illogic, you must be clinging to some
> very basic misconceptions about what Linux is and what computers do,
> but it's tough to figure out what your misconceptions are when all we
> see are the wrong conclusions you draw from them.

From all of BB's posts, it's not to see all he knows is
to write a few (client-side) Web pages. And he thinks he
is a computer guru as well as a freeware extraordinaire.
He would bring his Windows mindset to Linux, would we
be surprised if he couldn't deal with Linux? Granted, Linux
is still rough at some edges, but for those who have some
general computer system and OS knowledge (which BB
doesn't have), Linux is very usable. That could be one of
the reasons why Windows is still the dominant desktop
OS as the majority of PC users are just basic users.