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From: Andrew Kemp on 26 Mar 2010 15:30 nemo(a)erewhon.invalid (John Hill) writes: > "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote: > >> Is there a built-in newsreader that I could teach the novice to use? That >> way he could ask all of you for help ... > > There is no built-in newsreader that comes with OSX. But there are > plenty to choose from... Actually, there is. Mac OS X includes a terminal version of Emacs, which includes the Gnus newsreader. It's not something that I would recommend to novices, however. -- Drew
From: John Hill on 27 Mar 2010 04:47 Andrew Kemp <usenet(a)pell.uklinux.net> wrote: > nemo(a)erewhon.invalid (John Hill) writes: > > > "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote: > > > >> Is there a built-in newsreader that I could teach the novice to use? That > >> way he could ask all of you for help ... > > > > There is no built-in newsreader that comes with OSX. But there are > > plenty to choose from... > > Actually, there is. Mac OS X includes a terminal version of Emacs, > which includes the Gnus newsreader. It's not something that I would > recommend to novices, however. What is a "Terminal Version" and how would one find out about it? I can find nothing about Emacs or Gnus even in Apple Support. John. -- Please reply to john at yclept dot wanadoo dot co dot uk.
From: Chris Ridd on 27 Mar 2010 05:16 On 2010-03-27 08:47:51 +0000, John Hill said: > Andrew Kemp <usenet(a)pell.uklinux.net> wrote: > >> nemo(a)erewhon.invalid (John Hill) writes: >> >>> "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a built-in newsreader that I could teach the novice to use? That >>>> way he could ask all of you for help ... >>> >>> There is no built-in newsreader that comes with OSX. But there are >>> plenty to choose from... >> >> Actually, there is. Mac OS X includes a terminal version of Emacs, >> which includes the Gnus newsreader. It's not something that I would >> recommend to novices, however. > > What is a "Terminal Version" and how would one find out about it? I can > find nothing about Emacs or Gnus even in Apple Support. Run Terminal.app, which gives you a Unix shell prompt. From there you can run any installed Unix tools, including one called emacs. But seriously, if you need help even *finding* emacs, you *really* aren't going to enjoy trying to use it & gnus :-( Grab a trial copy of Unison from www.panic.com and see if you get on with it. -- Chris
From: Peter Ceresole on 27 Mar 2010 05:19 John Hill <nemo(a)erewhon.invalid> wrote: > What is a "Terminal Version" and how would one find out about it? I can > find nothing about Emacs or Gnus even in Apple Support. Go into Applications->Utilities. There you will find Terminal.app, which is a command line access to OS10's underlying BSD Unix. Run Terminal. In the window, type 'man emacs' (without quotes). It will tell you more than you might ever want to know about emacs. This is not generally available information in Apple support, because it's not Apple's responsibility, but contained in BSD Unix, which is the basic operating system upon which OS10 runs. When you've finished with Terminal, you can quit it in the normal way- like Cmd-Q. The suggestion to use emacs as a newsreader or mail application (it can be made to function as either) is more or less a geek's joke, unless you are yourself a Unix God of some kind. Configuring Mail.app will be enormously easier. -- Peter
From: Peter Ceresole on 27 Mar 2010 05:24
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > The suggestion to use emacs as a newsreader or mail application (it can > be made to function as either) is more or less a geek's joke Oops. Emacs will do mail. For News you need Gnus. But as Chris says; you wouldn't want to use either... -- Peter |