From: HVAC on 16 May 2010 12:26 "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionnoproblem(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:e6c08a4a-00a3-4af4-bbba-13bfc590660d(a)v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com... This oil spill sounds like the worst sticky black blot in the dark history of the human race... Get a grip dude. I'm sure in the past many oil spills have occurred naturally. http://www.livescience.com/environment/090520-natural-oil-seeps.html
From: Jan Panteltje on 16 May 2010 12:29 On a sunny day (Sun, 16 May 2010 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Brad Guth <bradguth(a)gmail.com> wrote in <388b4fc9-d45a-46bf-beb6-cbf3add9928c(a)k17g2000pro.googlegroups.com>: >On May 16, 5:50�am, HVAC <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7726... >> >> And you all thought *I* was crazy...... > >A good nuke bunker-buster might actually fuse it shut. However, >nuking BP corporate would be a whole lot better long-term solution of >preventing future blowouts. > >A serious bunker-busting bomb load of Browns Gas could also be >utilized to cause an implosion that could shut things down. At any >rate, that 5 MT application would at least get their dysfunctional >blow-off valve stack out of the way, so that a million tonne ball of >solid iron could then be sued as a stopper. > >Perhaps all of our existing spent nuclear fuel could be made into a >very high density kind of plug, so that once their defective wellhead >stack is nuked out of the way, the spent uranium plug of perhaps >100,000 tonnes would be deployed, as to seal off that hasty hole. >There might still be some leakage, but at least not more than a few >barrels per day, that a larger funnel could then safely manage. > > ~ BG The questions remain how much a radiactive pollutes ocean would contribute to the tourist industry in Florida. For the next thousand years.
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises on 16 May 2010 12:35 On May 16, 12:26 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:e6c08a4a-00a3-4af4-bbba-13bfc590660d(a)v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com... > This oil spill sounds like the worst sticky black blot in the dark > history of the human race... > > Get a grip dude. > > I'm sure in the past many oil spills have occurred naturally. > > http://www.livescience.com/environment/090520-natural-oil-seeps.html I heard of volcanoes erupting naturally, but not oil bursting out of the place where they have been lying for 300 million years.
From: Hagar on 16 May 2010 12:47 "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionnoproblem(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:fff021d5-097a-4f8c-9de5-49ead4df9616(a)r9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com... On May 16, 12:26 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of > QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:e6c08a4a-00a3-4af4-bbba-13bfc590660d(a)v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com... > This oil spill sounds like the worst sticky black blot in the dark > history of the human race... > > Get a grip dude. > > I'm sure in the past many oil spills have occurred naturally. > > http://www.livescience.com/environment/090520-natural-oil-seeps.html I heard of volcanoes erupting naturally, but not oil bursting out of the place where they have been lying for 300 million years. *********************************** Ever hear of the La Brea Tar Pits ??? What do you think that ooze is made of ....
From: Brian Wraith on 16 May 2010 13:22
On 5/16/2010 9:24 AM, Brad Guth wrote: > On May 16, 8:48 am, Brian Wraith<brianwra...(a)newzealand.invalid> > wrote: >> On 5/16/2010 8:13 AM, Brad Guth wrote: >> >> >> >>> On May 16, 5:50 am, HVAC<mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7726... >> >>>> And you all thought *I* was crazy...... >> >>> A good nuke bunker-buster might actually fuse it shut. However, >>> nuking BP corporate would be a whole lot better long-term solution of >>> preventing future blowouts. >> >>> A serious bunker-busting bomb load of Browns Gas could also be >>> utilized to cause an implosion that could shut things down. At any >>> rate, that 5 MT application would at least get their dysfunctional >>> blow-off valve stack out of the way, so that a million tonne ball of >>> solid iron could then be sued as a stopper. >> >>> Perhaps all of our existing spent nuclear fuel could be made into a >>> very high density kind of plug, so that once their defective wellhead >>> stack is nuked out of the way, the spent uranium plug of perhaps >>> 100,000 tonnes would be deployed, as to seal off that hasty hole. >>> There might still be some leakage, but at least not more than a few >>> barrels per day, that a larger funnel could then safely manage. >> >>> ~ BG >> >> The best use of high explosives would be to bury large shaped charges in >> a perimeter around the actual drill shaft, detonating them to create an >> implosion type effect, hoping to seal off the shaft by compressing the >> surrounding earth. >> >> This would be analogous to "pinching off an IV tube". >> >> One could use shaped nuclear warheads, but it would seem like overkill >> considering the capabilities of some of the newer energetic materials >> available. >> >> Using nuclear weapons in such a way would present the administration >> with enormous political consequences, especially if it were to fail or >> make matters worse. > > You could be right, about causing a lithosphere implosion with shaped > charges, pinching off that steel and cement reinforced hole so that > little if any oily sulfur and the other ten fold more volumes of raw > natural gas stops leaking out. Perhaps targeting with a surround of > 10 each 1 MT bunker-busting bombs or rather torpedoes might either do > the trick or fracture everything wide open. I am not sure if you have a concept of just how large of an explosion is caused by a 1 MT TND, let alone 10 of them. This would be total overkill, not to mention political suicide for the messiah. > > However, as plan-B using our spent reactor fuel as made into a very > large stopper, might not be such a bad idea. It could be coated on > the bottom with a meter thick layer of something heavy and sticky, or > simply having that special blowout prevention mud/cement pumped into > pores that'll seal off the underside until that pocket of oily sulfur > and gas is depleted by the second well, whereas then this same > humongous stopper could be re-utilized for the next BP blowout that > apparently can't be prevented. Why bother making a stopper out of DU?? That makes no sense. It would make more sense to make a stopper out of lead, however, at one mile below the surface, it is pretty damn difficult to do much of anything. The containment dome, properly equipped with heaters, agitators and methanol dilution systems to prevent clogging by hydrates, is a really great idea. Unfortunately, the politicians forced the engineers to deploy the dome before they were able to build it properly. |