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From: Jolly Roger on 28 Jan 2010 13:13 In article <00dd10c2$0$23824$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > > >> Microsoft supports touch screen on Windows 7. So Apple is behind MS for > >> touch screen on real computers. > > > > ...and if you think that's an oversight on Apple's part, you're likely > > mistaken. > > I don't think it is an "oversight". It is obvious Apple made a conscious > decision on this. But whether this decision is right or wrong, only time > will tell. The multi touch technology can be significantly more > productive than a mouse. Yes, and it can also be significantly *less* productive. Only in the right environment, and with the right implementation, is it actually more productive. Hold your arm up parallel with the desk, pointing at the screen for an hour or so, or all day. How long does it take before you arm starts to get tired? ; ) I have to think Apple has thought of this. Apple's not going to put touch screens on everything just because Joe Blow happens to think its a good idea. It does actually have to BE a good idea for Apple to even consider doing it. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Davoud on 28 Jan 2010 13:13 Kevin McMurtrie: > The iPhone was revolutionary because it made a pocket-sized touch-screen > both elegant and commonplace. Making an iPhone bigger is not impressive > and maybe even counter-productive. Making a larger iPhone that runs on > any GSM network as long as it's AT&T is just pissing customers off. Further to my earlier comment on AT&T: Apple's results for Q1 2010 show iPhone unit sales up 19 percent over the previous quarter and 100% over Q1 2009. This is not shabby performance for luxury electronics in a time of deep economic recession; indeed, it is a success without precedent. You can hardly claim that allegations of AT&T inadequacies have been kept quiet. So how much are you willing to bet that angry potential customers will spurn the iPad due to those same allegations? No lines at the stores, no hordes of ecstatic users. The criterion for deciding who won the bet could be widespread reports in the mainstream press that Apple's expectations for iPad sales have been very disappointing due to it being tied to AT&T. The prize could be a 64 GB iPad for me or a different device of similar cost that uses a wireless provider other than AT&T for you. Oops! This just in: AT&T added 2.7 million new customers in Q1 2010 and activated 3.1 million iPhones. Do _not_ bet against the iPad. Davoud P.S. Also don't get me wrong. AT&T are a bunch of money-grubbing bastards just like the rest of the wireless industry. They can act the way they do because they are one of the many corporate owners of the U.S. legislature. It should not be legal to tie wireless hardware to any wireless provider; it should be a free-for-all. Then your cellular service would cost about $2 per month with an additional $0.50 for unlimited data -- and they would still make obscene profits. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
From: Paul Sture on 28 Jan 2010 12:54 In article <00A98394.1D3D29C5(a)SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > My bank installed NEW ATMs. They are completely touch screen. I have > yet to use it that I have not been frustrated by it misreading what I > intended to do. The same thing at the pharmacy with their fully touch > screen enabled prescription acknowledgment and credit/debit card system. A story from last summer. The older systems available on Swiss Rail had a mechanical keypad and you simply hit the zip code of your destination plus single/return and full/half price buttons, plus there was a fully engraved list of common destinations, family ticket options with special codes you could enter. Then they introduced the touch screen models. At first these were OK, but we still had the option of the oler machines if prepared with the zip code (easy to find off t'internet or out of the phone book, and many other sources). The big bolluxup came when only touch screens became available, and you now have to go through something like 11 (I've counted) screens to get a simple ticket. Add to that 30 second response times which I experienced that day last summer and it's ridiculous. Ah, I was trying to spend a couple of hours at an exhibition, and this fiasco with the ticket machines meant I missed my train and would only get one hour there, so it wasn't worth the trip. Really, the development guys should have had to use one of these systems every time they walked out of the office to get a coffee or visit the rest room* or have a management meeting. > I guess it's a nice idea for some or somethings, but trying to wedge in > this technology where it doesn't fit just does not make sense to me. OTOH, my bank has a combination of touch screen and keypad (with extra keys for OK, Cancel and Stop) and it works well. The system also remembers the amount of my last withdrawal and whether I want a receipt or not and presents that as a fast withdrawal option. *I'd slip laxatives into their drinking water too ;-) -- Paul Sture
From: Jolly Roger on 28 Jan 2010 13:21 In article <paul.nospam-058865.18024428012010(a)pbook.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul.nospam(a)sture.ch> wrote: > In article <m24om69vo9.fsf(a)revier.com>, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> > wrote: > > > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> writes: > > > > > Microsoft supports touch screen on Windows 7. So Apple is behind MS for > > > touch screen on real computers. > > > > Just that touchscreens are not really useful on "real computers". > > Visited an ATM lately? And how many hours do you spend pointing at the ATM? If you spent anywhere near as much time as you do in front of your computer, security personnel would find you extremely interesting. Point at your cursor on your screen all day today as an exercise, please. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: isw on 28 Jan 2010 13:28
In article <paul.nospam-058865.18024428012010(a)pbook.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul.nospam(a)sture.ch> wrote: > In article <m24om69vo9.fsf(a)revier.com>, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> > wrote: > > > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> writes: > > > > > Microsoft supports touch screen on Windows 7. So Apple is behind MS for > > > touch screen on real computers. > > > > Just that touchscreens are not really useful on "real computers". > > > > Visited an ATM lately? How are those for games and surfing the web? Isaac |