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On Jun 2, 12:00 pm, YBM <ybm...(a)nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> BURT a écrit :
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> > On Jun 2, 11:46 am, YBM <ybm...(a)nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> >> BURT a écrit :
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> >>> On Jun 2, 11:18 am, YBM <ybm...(a)nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> BURT a écrit :
> >>>>> On Jun 1, 5:01 pm, YBM <ybm...(a)nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> BURT a écrit :
> >>>>>>> On Jun 1, 4:43 pm, YBM <ybm...(a)nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> BURT a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 3:28 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> you may have a point here
> >>>>>>>>>> listen, when length contraction,
> >>>>>>>>>> space contracts, so the atoms in
> >>>>>>>>>> it will preserve their shape, if
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> >>>>>>>>>> so no stress whatsoever !!!
> >>>>>>>>>> good bye
> >>>>>>>>> No. Atoms would loose their form. The distance size of the atom in the
> >>>>>>>>> direction of the moving train would contract.
> >>>>>>>> It does, this has been proven *experimentaly*.
> >>>>>>> No. It has never been observed. And there is a good reason.
> >>>>>> Come on, crank. Have a look to the litterature in experimental physics
> >>>>>> about ions collisioner.
> >>>>>> The bloody collisioner wouldn't even work at all if relativistic
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> >>>>> You wish. Such a thing is nonsense. You can't claim there is any
> >>>>> evidence for it at all. Atom acceleraters don't contract atoms. Your
> >>>>> idea that the nucleus needs to contract for acceleration to work is
> >>>>> stupid.
> >>>>> You have nothing to back you up.
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> >>> Where is the proof that it is a fact? What is the excuse for not
> >>> providing the measurements? You state the nucleus. But we cannot
> >>> measure the nucleus.
> >> The shape of the nucleus in the collider frame is taken in account
> >> because it determines the shape of the Coulomb field around them.
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> > Prove it. What is a coulomb field doing that needs it to contract?
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> This is not only a stupid question, this is a meaningless question.
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> > Please provide the measurements and the reason it is necessary as you
> > say.
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> Read the papers.
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> > I say you have none.
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> > Mitch Raemsch
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> >> If the nucleus hadn't been Lorentz contracted, the Coulomb field
> >> wouldn't too, and the results of experiments would be different
> >> to what is observed.
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> > Different in what way?
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> Read the papers.

No. Provide what will be different. I will hold you to it for the sake
of the argument. What are you arguing that will be different?

If you can't answer please admit it now.

Mitch Raemsch

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> >> Worse, the colliders as they are designed
> >> wouldn't work at all.
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> >>> No. Atoms do not shrink in the direction of their motion.
> >>http://www.bnl.gov/rhic/physics.asphttp://www.fulbright.hu/book3/csan..... 21)
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> >>> Lopsided atoms won't work out in physics.
> >> Why? Because stupid you and your stupid god decided it won't?
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> >>> If they won't work out in physics there can be no more reason to argue
> >>> for space contraction.
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> > NO. There are no flat atoms. This is proven already. This is the fact.
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> Listen, idiot : I gave you references to scientific papers you certainly
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I thought so. You cannot back yourself up.
Atoms do not go flat.

Mitch Raemsch