From: Phillip Jones on
Tim Streater wrote:
> In article<1jiah4v.juaby1c0z6f4N%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
> mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>
>> Mike Rosenberg<mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John Wolf<jwolf6589(a)THUNDERBIRDgmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out the screenshots. For some reason Kompser& Sea Monkey have a
>>>> issue with this page, that is not found in the online HTML editor. If I
>>>> knew how to fix this I would.
>>>
>>> John, get this through your head:
>>>
>>> You need to validate your html. At least half a dozen people, including
>>> me, have pointed you to:
>>>
>>> http://validator.w3.org/
>>>
>>> That site tells you exactly what the problems are. Open the page(s) in a
>>> text editor, make the changes as indicated, then try again.
>>>
>>> NO ONE can tell you what the problems are just by looking at screen
>>> shots. We'd need to see the code, and then what any of us would do to
>>> fix that code would be to use the above validation service or something
>>> like it.
>>
>> Okay, in all fairness, looking at the validator.w3.org results on your
>> home page, the large majority of your errors are related to having tags
>> with "X-Claris" in them. Claris HomePage, which was last update over 12
>> years ago, is not only woefully out of date with the current state of
>> HTML, it was also doing some hinky stuff with tags like these.
>>
>> Bottom line - you really need to recreate your pages from scratch if you
>> ever want them to display as you want them to and consistently across
>> different browsers and platforms.
>>
>> That you have said you don't want to do the above does not change the
>> necessity to do so.
>
> Doing html in any sort of GUI is horseshit anyway.
>

Not necessarily.

I use the WYSIWYG mode of DreamWeaver.

I have two pages on the entire site that show any errors using HTML
4.0.1 Transitional and they are because I I have a a Music element
inserted one version using embed, the other using object tag. both to
have the music controllable with the viewers of the site.

As to content and backgrounds that up to personal taste. I even make
light use of CSS.

http://www.phillipmjones.net.

As I add a page I am careful to test using built in tools of DreamWeaver
and run through w3c validator.

--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjones1(a)kimbanet.com
From: Scott Bryce on
Glen Labah wrote:
> If you want a complicated format system that is pretty universal from
> one computer to the next, there's always PDF.

PDF should only be used if the content is intended to be printed rather
than viewed on screen.
From: dorayme on
In article <hsaduc$1b3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Scott Bryce <sbryce(a)scottbryce.com> wrote:

> Glen Labah wrote:
> > If you want a complicated format system that is pretty universal from
> > one computer to the next, there's always PDF.
>
> PDF should only be used if the content is intended to be printed rather
> than viewed on screen.

Maybe sort of... but not really true in the real world. If I had
to html *all* the material (like newsletters and temporary
flyers, notices of some types) I handle on webpages, it would
cost the clients much more than was justified. It is a matter of
judgement and "for print" is neither a necessary nor a sufficient
condition.

--
dorayme
From: Phillip Jones on
dorayme wrote:
> In article<hsaduc$1b3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Scott Bryce<sbryce(a)scottbryce.com> wrote:
>
>> Glen Labah wrote:
>>> If you want a complicated format system that is pretty universal from
>>> one computer to the next, there's always PDF.
>>
>> PDF should only be used if the content is intended to be printed rather
>> than viewed on screen.
>
> Maybe sort of... but not really true in the real world. If I had
> to html *all* the material (like newsletters and temporary
> flyers, notices of some types) I handle on webpages, it would
> cost the clients much more than was justified. It is a matter of
> judgement and "for print" is neither a necessary nor a sufficient
> condition.
>

Its kind of hard to view family tree created on FileMaker in native format.

--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjones1(a)kimbanet.com
From: Wes Groleau on
On 05-10-2010 18:44, Mike Rosenberg wrote:
>> John, get this through your head:
>> You need to validate your html. At least half a dozen people, including
>> me, have pointed you to:
>> http://validator.w3.org/
>... [snip]
> That you have said you don't want to do the above does not change the
> necessity to do so.

Good grief, is this guy a reincarnation of Mark Conrad ?!?

--
Wes Groleau

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