From: Warren Oates on
In article <dorayme-D6BC5A.10451112052010(a)news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Yeah? You have a thriving business, you used to talk about
> supervising staff. You are my business hero. There is another
> factor at work! You Welsh?
>
Hey! If you knew any Welsh people, you'd realize what a peaceful and
loving race they are; all that stuff about stealing sides of beef is
just plain stereotyping.

The house(s) where my dear ol' mother was born in 1911 ...

<http://www.ourwales.org.uk/index.php?option=com_joomcaw&controller=image
&task=show&id=5391&lang=en-GB>

or

<http://tiny.cc/yjcdq>

My grandad worked in the quarry ...
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: Phillip Jones on
Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<hsd141$nbf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Phillip Jones<pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote:
>
>>> I used Schubert until I got an intel iMac; I wouldn't run Safari under
>>> Rosetta, so the Schubert plugin didn't work. After they finally (3
>>> years or so) made Schubert Intel native, I installed it again, and
>>> found that I preferred Safari's native PDF handling to Schubert's, so
>>> I uninstalled it.
>>>
>> The disadvantage though of the acrobat PDF viewer for Safari, is that it
>> only works with Safari.
>
> Well, since I use Safari almost exclusively, that's not a problem.
>
> But I just checked the list of plugins in my copy of Safari, and I didn't
> see any for PDFs, not did I see any from Adobe.
>
There are two places to put plugins. one is in the main Library >
Internet-plugins

Plugins place there work system wide and for a users.

The other is if you use a separate user account it would be username >
Library > Internet-plugins. and that works only in the specified user
account and is not shared.

All plugins should be placed in the the main library >plugin Folder.
Sometimes applications install them in wrong directory.

--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjones1(a)kimbanet.com
From: Scott Bryce on
dorayme wrote:
> I hope we are not going to go in circles:

There is no reason to. I gain nothing by trying to talk you out of using
PDF files when you feel they are appropriate.
From: David Stone on
In article
<michelle-DC1200.10004912052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <hseju3$1k7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Phillip Jones <pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote:
>
> > > But I just checked the list of plugins in my copy of Safari, and I
> > > didn't see any for PDFs, not did I see any from Adobe.
> > >
> > There are two places to put plugins. one is in the main Library >
> > Internet-plugins
>
> Regardless of where they are placed, they would be listed in the Installed
> Plug-ins window of Safari, and there are no PDF plugins listed in that
> window.
>
> I checked both internet plugin locations in the Finder, and here are no pdf
> plugins in either place.
>
> And as a final check, I unchecked "enable plug-ins" in Safari's
> preferences, and still could view PDFs.

I believe that Safari (at least when running on a Mac) uses Preview
to display pdfs unless you have the AdobePDFViewer.app installed?

One thing about Safari's Help -> Installed Plug-ins menu item is that
you have to have JS enabled, or it simply presents a blank page - it
actually loads the local file:
</Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Plug-ins.html>
From: dorayme on
In article <hseok7$el2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Scott Bryce <sbryce(a)scottbryce.com> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> > I hope we are not going to go in circles:
>
> There is no reason to. I gain nothing by trying to talk you out of using
> PDF files when you feel they are appropriate.

Well, I have forgotten the context of this remark of mine. I was
just saying, if I recall, that there are other valid and
realistic reasons other than printing for the occasional or
limited use of PDFs on website.

--
dorayme