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From: Happy Oyster on 27 Sep 2009 12:57 On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:30:20 +0200, DenverD <spam.trap(a)SOMEwhere.dk> wrote: >much better, in my opinion is to foot stop: don't log in as root >(cause you KNOW they are gonna go direct to their home and 'try' >something.).. This way you keep the users idiots, and they cannot free themselves out of that. THAT is EXACTLY the Microsoft way. And THAT is EXACTLY the way NOT TO DO IT!!! ****************************************************************************** -- TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! http://www.leipziger-montagsdemo.de/informationen/daten/daten_02_spd/TINA-There_Is_No_Alternative_I.jpg http://www.leipziger-montagsdemo.de/informationen/daten/daten_02_spd/TINA-There_Is_No_Alternative_II.jpg
From: David Bolt on 27 Sep 2009 12:54 On Sunday 27 Sep 2009 17:08, Baron played with alphabet spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > David Bolt wrote: > >> On Saturday 26 Sep 2009 21:25, Baron played with alphabet spaghetti >> and left this residue on the plate: >> >> <snip> >> >>> I tried that and I get "Failed to start X server" >> >> What's the error? > > That was the error message after typing "startx". Try logging in as a normal user and entering: startx &>startx.output.txt >> Did the install work using a GUI? > > Yes it works exactly as it should. Graphical login screen, KDE and/or > Gnome. Good. The snippet below should get you a working X display. >> If so, what happens when you copy >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install over the top of /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then >> try startx ? Does it start? Does it error? What's the error(s) you're >> seeing? >> >> >> Regards, >> David Bolt >> > > Thats my next step. > > What really rattled me was that there were no (alt+ctrl+Fx) screens ! > Just the black screen with white writing and a login prompt at the > bottom. Doing the (alt+ctrl+Fx) the screen never changed. Check again. Console 1 will show the text from the various start-up scripts shown as the system boots. Consoles 2 to 6 will show something like this: Welcome to openSUSE 11.1 - Kernel 2.6.27.29-0.1-default (tty?) moray login: The host-name, moray, will be different for your system, as may be the kernel version. The tty? will be different depending on which particular console you're looking at. If you're looking at console 2, it should be tty2. Console 3 will be tty3, etc. > All I could do was login. I didn't try as user. > I typed root and put the password in. The prompt changed. > Typing "startx" got the response "Failed to start X server" There should have been much more text than that before that error message is returned. There always has been when I've managed to break X. > Typing "SaX2" got :- No X server running. Sax will start its own > server. Then "Unable to start X server" returning to the prompt. Sounds like sax2 is picking the wrong driver. > At this point the keyboard no longer works and you can only press the > on/off switch which gets a message saying that the "machine is going > down for a reboot". At least it's shutting down right. I hate the delay when the system has to do a full system check on my drives. It's really painful when the drive is large and/or has loads of files. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2m6 RISC OS 3.6 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02
From: Happy Oyster on 27 Sep 2009 12:59 On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:25:19 +0200, DenverD <spam.trap(a)SOMEwhere.dk> wrote: >> The big problem with installation is that I have not the least clue > >that part of your rant is true.. NO! I wrote: The big problem with installation is that I have not the least clue on what the installer or the programm will do. You left out the important part of the sentence. And THAT makes a big difference. -- TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! http://www.leipziger-montagsdemo.de/informationen/daten/daten_02_spd/TINA-There_Is_No_Alternative_I.jpg http://www.leipziger-montagsdemo.de/informationen/daten/daten_02_spd/TINA-There_Is_No_Alternative_II.jpg
From: J G Miller on 27 Sep 2009 13:12 On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:31:58 +0100, David Bolt wrote: > Why would you *need* to run any GUI based program for administration > tasks? Because the software only has a GUI based program with all of the options to do the task. > YaST2 runs very nicely as an ncurses application on a text console Nowhere did I state that the program involved was YasT2 > if a file system is bad, you wouldn't be running a GUI application > to fix it. Where did I state that the GUI program being run was to fsck the file system?
From: J G Miller on 27 Sep 2009 13:14
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:18:26 +0200, DenverD wrote: > describe the circumstance in which an administrator _must_ run _which_ > X11 program because there is _no way_ to perform the same > administrative task on a non-X running machine! Very special exceptional circumstances, most probably involving proprietary software. |