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From: David Bolt on 27 Sep 2009 13:53 On Sunday 27 Sep 2009 17:55, Happy Oyster played with alphabet spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:26:57 +0100, David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote: >>How are you changing them? From a console and using chown, the changes >>occur when I do them: > > From the GUI: <rightclick> <properties> Now that looks like Konqueror/Dolphin is looking at the permissions of the directory and checking if it needs to do any changes. Where the directory is already at the specified ownership/permissions, it's not making any changes even where the "Apply changes to all subfolders and their contents" is checked. That to me is a bug. I'll do another check with 11.2 and see if it's present there. if it is, I'll open a bug against it. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2m7 RISC OS 3.6 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02
From: David Bolt on 27 Sep 2009 14:01 On Sunday 27 Sep 2009 18:12, J G Miller played with alphabet spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:31:58 +0100, David Bolt wrote: > >> Why would you *need* to run any GUI based program for administration >> tasks? > > Because the software only has a GUI based program with all of the options > to do the task. What program would you be using that requires a GUI to do some administration tasks that have to be done when /home is broken and doesn't have the same functionality provided by either a text-only or text-capable application? >> YaST2 runs very nicely as an ncurses application on a text console > > Nowhere did I state that the program involved was YasT2 No you didn't, but that's going to be a pretty good assumption since you're using openSUSE (you are using openSUSE and not some other distro?) and wanting to do administration tasks. >> if a file system is bad, you wouldn't be running a GUI application >> to fix it. > > Where did I state that the GUI program being run was to fsck the file system? You didn't. You stated that you needed to use X as root because /home was broken and normal users couldn't log in to use X. If you're not wanting to use fsck through a GUI, why aren't you fixing the file system so normal users can log in and then using the GUI application as the normal user? Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2m6 RISC OS 3.6 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02
From: Happy Oyster on 27 Sep 2009 14:27 On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:53:42 +0100, David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote: >On Sunday 27 Sep 2009 17:55, Happy Oyster played with alphabet >spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:26:57 +0100, David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote: > >>>How are you changing them? From a console and using chown, the changes >>>occur when I do them: >> >> From the GUI: <rightclick> <properties> > >Now that looks like Konqueror/Dolphin is looking at the permissions of >the directory and checking if it needs to do any changes. Where the >directory is already at the specified ownership/permissions, it's not >making any changes even where the "Apply changes to all subfolders and >their contents" is checked. That to me is a bug. I'll do another check >with 11.2 and see if it's present there. if it is, I'll open a bug >against it. Thank you, Aribert Deckers -- TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! http://www.leipziger-montagsdemo.de/informationen/daten/daten_02_spd/TINA-There_Is_No_Alternative_I.jpg http://www.leipziger-montagsdemo.de/informationen/daten/daten_02_spd/TINA-There_Is_No_Alternative_II.jpg
From: David Bolt on 27 Sep 2009 14:17 On Sunday 27 Sep 2009 18:52, houghi played with alphabet spaghetti and left this residue on the plate: > J G Miller wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:31:58 +0100, David Bolt wrote: >> >>> Why would you *need* to run any GUI based program for administration >>> tasks? >> >> Because the software only has a GUI based program with all of the options >> to do the task. > > I know of such a software. gparted. :-D Strangely enough, I know that one too :-| That doesn't mean you have to use it. There's fdisk, parted and the various mkfs.* applications that can all do the same as gparted. Fine, using the GUI is probably easier to use but that's still doesn't mean you *have* to use the GUI as root to get the job(s) done. > That however does not mean you must log in as root. Exactly. Fix the broken /home file system, log in as a normal user and then use it without being root. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2m6 RISC OS 3.6 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02
From: Happy Oyster on 27 Sep 2009 15:04
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:07:21 +0200, houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote: >Happy Oyster wrote: >> The big problem with installation is that I have not the least clue on what the >> installer or the programm will do. > >So the problem is that _YOU_ do not have a clue and that is somehow the >fault of the installer of the program? I am no clearvoyant, AND it is not my task to know all the mess which is hidden in an installer. -- TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! http://www.leipziger-montagsdemo.de/informationen/daten/daten_02_spd/TINA-There_Is_No_Alternative_I.jpg http://www.leipziger-montagsdemo.de/informationen/daten/daten_02_spd/TINA-There_Is_No_Alternative_II.jpg |