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From: Ian Collins on 20 Mar 2010 17:55 On 03/21/10 09:54 AM, Canuck57 wrote: > On 20/03/2010 2:18 PM, Non scrivetemi wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is Solaris now only a 30 day trial and after that you have to pay? Or can >> you still download and use Solaris on x86 for free? > > OpenSolaris, I am sure it hasn't made any headway into businesses or I > would see it. It too is going to wither as a hobbiest excercise as there > is no impelling reason to use it over a Linux distro. I guess the main organisation I work with is the counter example. We are consolidating legacy Linux boxes with zones on OpenSolaris hosts. For us, the compelling reasons are storage management, zones and CIFS. -- Ian Collins
From: Michael Laajanen on 20 Mar 2010 18:35 Hi, Ian Collins wrote: > On 03/21/10 10:25 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: >> On 2010-03-20 20:28:12 +0000, Ian Collins said: >> >>> On 03/21/10 09:18 AM, Non scrivetemi wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Is Solaris now only a 30 day trial and after that you have to pay? Or >>>> can >>>> you still download and use Solaris on x86 for free? >>>> >>> Um, the licensing information (from >>> http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp) now says: >>> >>> "Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is >>> limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract >>> for the downloaded Software." >>> >>> Does anyone have a copy of what it used to say? >> >> The wayback machine (running on Solaris or OpenSolaris IIRC) shows the >> page in 2008 >> <http://web.archive.org/web/20080614035850/http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/popup.jsp?info=17>. >> >> It just says you must have an entitlement doc. > > So the last sentence I quoted has been tacked on the end. Sneaky. > Well, not everything can be free on the world, Sun did not perform well and something at Sun must change in order to make money doesn't it? I have always seen Solaris in as RedHat and OpenSolaris as Fedora. Organisations should pay for the license, personal use of a Enterprise SW should be free IMHO. /Michael
From: Chris Ridd on 20 Mar 2010 19:21 On 2010-03-20 22:35:07 +0000, Michael Laajanen said: > Hi, > Ian Collins wrote: >> On 03/21/10 10:25 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: >>> On 2010-03-20 20:28:12 +0000, Ian Collins said: >>> >>>> On 03/21/10 09:18 AM, Non scrivetemi wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is Solaris now only a 30 day trial and after that you have to pay? Or >>>>> can >>>>> you still download and use Solaris on x86 for free? >>>>> >>>> Um, the licensing information (from >>>> http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp) now says: >>>> >>>> "Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is >>>> limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract >>>> for the downloaded Software." >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a copy of what it used to say? >>> >>> The wayback machine (running on Solaris or OpenSolaris IIRC) shows the >>> page in 2008 >>> <http://web.archive.org/web/20080614035850/http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/popup.jsp?info=17>. It >>> >>> just says you must have an entitlement doc. >> >> So the last sentence I quoted has been tacked on the end. Sneaky. >> > Well, not everything can be free on the world, Sun did not perform well > and something at Sun must change in order to make money doesn't it? > > I have always seen Solaris in as RedHat and OpenSolaris as Fedora. > > Organisations should pay for the license, personal use of a Enterprise > SW should be free IMHO. How do Oracle license their Linux? -- Chris
From: Canuck57 on 20 Mar 2010 19:46 On 20/03/2010 3:55 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 03/21/10 09:54 AM, Canuck57 wrote: >> On 20/03/2010 2:18 PM, Non scrivetemi wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is Solaris now only a 30 day trial and after that you have to pay? Or >>> can >>> you still download and use Solaris on x86 for free? >> >> OpenSolaris, I am sure it hasn't made any headway into businesses or I >> would see it. It too is going to wither as a hobbiest excercise as there >> is no impelling reason to use it over a Linux distro. > > I guess the main organisation I work with is the counter example. We are > consolidating legacy Linux boxes with zones on OpenSolaris hosts. > > For us, the compelling reasons are storage management, zones and CIFS. CIFS? I haven't seen a Linux distro that could not do it. Storage management, logical volume manager works quite well. Lots of VM options too. But to each their own, but you are the first I have hear in doing this in a business production environment. Last I checked, I couldn't get drivers for 1/2 my stuff. -- -------------- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.
From: Canuck57 on 20 Mar 2010 20:11
On 20/03/2010 4:35 PM, Michael Laajanen wrote: > Hi, > Ian Collins wrote: >> On 03/21/10 10:25 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: >>> On 2010-03-20 20:28:12 +0000, Ian Collins said: >>> >>>> On 03/21/10 09:18 AM, Non scrivetemi wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is Solaris now only a 30 day trial and after that you have to pay? Or >>>>> can >>>>> you still download and use Solaris on x86 for free? >>>>> >>>> Um, the licensing information (from >>>> http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp) now says: >>>> >>>> "Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is >>>> limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract >>>> for the downloaded Software." >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a copy of what it used to say? >>> >>> The wayback machine (running on Solaris or OpenSolaris IIRC) shows the >>> page in 2008 >>> <http://web.archive.org/web/20080614035850/http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/popup.jsp?info=17>. >>> >>> It just says you must have an entitlement doc. >> >> So the last sentence I quoted has been tacked on the end. Sneaky. >> > Well, not everything can be free on the world, Sun did not perform well > and something at Sun must change in order to make money doesn't it? > > I have always seen Solaris in as RedHat and OpenSolaris as Fedora. > > Organisations should pay for the license, personal use of a Enterprise > SW should be free IMHO. > > /Michael > Couldn't agree more. While an organization should pay reasonable for a technology, it is cost prohibitive for many of us to pay retail to run this stuff. And by running it say at home, learning it, making skills available to businesses to use it... there is the value. As businesses are not going to shell out for technologoes that need full time @ $250/hr++ from Sun/Oracle. Might be ok to start for some with deep pockets, but not for most. Oracle has been successful squeezing the $$$ out of clients, but at some point their model will be deemed over priced. -- -------------- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do. |