Origins of the universe [Math]

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From: BURT on 27 Jun 2010 18:04

On Jun 27, 6:18�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:24:02 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote in talk.origins:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jun 26, 8:55�pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 26, 11:33 pm, Boikat <boi...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >> > On Jun 26, 10:27 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Jun 26, 4:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > "I want to know how God created the universe. I want to know his
> >> > > > thoughts. The rest are just details." Albert EInstein
>
> >> > > > Hypersphere cosmology was the beginning with energy created in its
> >> > > > surface of space. First there was inflation that stopped gravity from
> >> > > > bringing it all back together. Einstein's universe is closed finite
> >> > > > yet unbounded hypersphere cosmology.
>
> >> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> >> > > The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream.
>
> >> > > The following is an image of a jet stream:
>
> >> > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> >> > No, that's a schematic representation of size of the Universe through
> >> > time.
>
> >> It's not the Big Bang. It's the Big Ongoing.
>
> >But the universe has an Absolute Beginning with nothing before.
>
> Physicists do not claim that they know anything about the universe be
> the first Planck interval. Where did you get your "absolute" knowledge?
>
>
>
> >There is one universe just as there is only One God.
> >This universe doesn't end. God does everything beyond His physics.
> >The Sun will never die. Just as no life bearing planet ever will.
> >There is The Great Recycle by God.
>
> >Mitch Raemsch
>
> >> Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> >> The material is maether.
> >> Maether has mass.
>
> >> Maether is continually emitted into the jet stream the universe is, or
> >> the local universe exists in.
>
> >> In the following image, '1st Stars' is where the pressure is great
> >> enough to cause the maether to be compressed into matter.
>
> >>http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> >> The following image of the Rindler Horizon is also an image of the jet
> >> stream the universe is, or the local universe exists in:
>
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God is doing gravity.

Mitch Raemsch

From: BURT on 27 Jun 2010 18:10

On Jun 27, 2:48�pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 5:18 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:31:26 -0700, mpc755 wrote:
> > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > > material is maether.
> > > Maether has mass.
> > > Aether and matter have mass.
> > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. Aether
> > > is displaced by matter.
>
> > In what muniverse?
>
> > --
> > Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
> > "It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
> > honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
> > pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume
>
> Answer the following:
>
> A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed at the exits.
> The C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. A C-60
> molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed and removed from the
> exits to the slits. Repeat and the C-60 molecule creates an
> interference pattern.
>
> A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The
> C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit
> experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits
> the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits
> it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> there is no interference.
>
> Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit?
>
> Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!
>
> Enjoy your inability to understand the physics of nature.
>
> Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> The material is maether.
> Maether has mass.
> Aether and matter have mass.
> Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether.
> Aether is displaced by matter.
> The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'.
> The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether.
> Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter.
>
> 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
>
> The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> aether's state of displacement.
>
> "According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
> unthinkable"
>
> 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A.
> EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> diminishes by L/c2."
>
> The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
> exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
> aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
> dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
> and matter is energy.

The experiments you have heard about are intellectual dishonesty.
Science has been making things up and is going to pay for it when it
is revealed in the future.

Please stoip using it as your source.

Mitch Raemsch

From: Free Lunch on 27 Jun 2010 18:23

On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:04:11 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com>
wrote in talk.origins:

>On Jun 27, 6:18�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:24:02 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com>
>> wrote in talk.origins:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Jun 26, 8:55�pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Jun 26, 11:33 pm, Boikat <boi...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Jun 26, 10:27 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > On Jun 26, 4:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > "I want to know how God created the universe. I want to know his
>> >> > > > thoughts. The rest are just details." Albert EInstein
>>
>> >> > > > Hypersphere cosmology was the beginning with energy created in its
>> >> > > > surface of space. First there was inflation that stopped gravity from
>> >> > > > bringing it all back together. Einstein's universe is closed finite
>> >> > > > yet unbounded hypersphere cosmology.
>>
>> >> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>>
>> >> > > The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream.
>>
>> >> > > The following is an image of a jet stream:
>>
>> >> > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>>
>> >> > No, that's a schematic representation of size of the Universe through
>> >> > time.
>>
>> >> It's not the Big Bang. It's the Big Ongoing.
>>
>> >But the universe has an Absolute Beginning with nothing before.
>>
>> Physicists do not claim that they know anything about the universe be
>> the first Planck interval. Where did you get your "absolute" knowledge?
>>
>>
>>
>> >There is one universe just as there is only One God.
>> >This universe doesn't end. God does everything beyond His physics.
>> >The Sun will never die. Just as no life bearing planet ever will.
>> >There is The Great Recycle by God.
>>
>> >Mitch Raemsch
>>
>> >> Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
>> >> The material is maether.
>> >> Maether has mass.
>>
>> >> Maether is continually emitted into the jet stream the universe is, or
>> >> the local universe exists in.
>>
>> >> In the following image, '1st Stars' is where the pressure is great
>> >> enough to cause the maether to be compressed into matter.
>>
>> >>http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>>
>> >> The following image of the Rindler Horizon is also an image of the jet
>> >> stream the universe is, or the local universe exists in:
>>
>> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics-Hide quoted text -
>>
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>God is doing gravity.
>
>Mitch Raemsch

It is clear that you have made yourself incapable of learning.

From: BURT on 27 Jun 2010 18:58

On Jun 27, 3:23�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:04:11 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote in talk.origins:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jun 27, 6:18 am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:24:02 -0700 (PDT), BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com>
> >> wrote in talk.origins:
>
> >> >On Jun 26, 8:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Jun 26, 11:33 pm, Boikat <boi...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Jun 26, 10:27 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > On Jun 26, 4:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > "I want to know how God created the universe. I want to know his
> >> >> > > > thoughts. The rest are just details." Albert EInstein
>
> >> >> > > > Hypersphere cosmology was the beginning with energy created in its
> >> >> > > > surface of space. First there was inflation that stopped gravity from
> >> >> > > > bringing it all back together. Einstein's universe is closed finite
> >> >> > > > yet unbounded hypersphere cosmology.
>
> >> >> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> >> >> > > The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream.
>
> >> >> > > The following is an image of a jet stream:
>
> >> >> > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> >> >> > No, that's a schematic representation of size of the Universe through
> >> >> > time.
>
> >> >> It's not the Big Bang. It's the Big Ongoing.
>
> >> >But the universe has an Absolute Beginning with nothing before.
>
> >> Physicists do not claim that they know anything about the universe be
> >> the first Planck interval. Where did you get your "absolute" knowledge?
>
> >> >There is one universe just as there is only One God.
> >> >This universe doesn't end. God does everything beyond His physics.
> >> >The Sun will never die. Just as no life bearing planet ever will.
> >> >There is The Great Recycle by God.
>
> >> >Mitch Raemsch
>
> >> >> Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> >> >> The material is maether.
> >> >> Maether has mass.
>
> >> >> Maether is continually emitted into the jet stream the universe is, or
> >> >> the local universe exists in.
>
> >> >> In the following image, '1st Stars' is where the pressure is great
> >> >> enough to cause the maether to be compressed into matter.
>
> >> >>http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> >> >> The following image of the Rindler Horizon is also an image of the jet
> >> >> stream the universe is, or the local universe exists in:
>
> >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics-Hidequoted text -
>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >God is doing gravity.
>
> >Mitch Raemsch
>
> It is clear that you have made yourself incapable of learning.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I am not a student.

Mitch Raemsch

From: mpc755 on 27 Jun 2010 20:53

On Jun 27, 6:10�pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 27, 5:18 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:31:26 -0700, mpc755 wrote:
> > > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > > > material is maether.
> > > > Maether has mass.
> > > > Aether and matter have mass.
> > > > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. Aether
> > > > is displaced by matter.
>
> > > In what muniverse?
>
> > > --
> > > Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
> > > "It is certain, from experience, that the smallest grain of natural
> > > honesty and benevolence has more effect on men's conduct, than the most
> > > pompous views suggested by theological theories and systems." - D. Hume
>
> > Answer the following:
>
> > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed at the exits.
> > The C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. A C-60
> > molecule is in the slit(s). Detectors are placed and removed from the
> > exits to the slits. Repeat and the C-60 molecule creates an
> > interference pattern.
>
> > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The
> > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit
> > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits
> > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits
> > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> > there is no interference.
>
> > Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit?
>
> > Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!
>
> > Enjoy your inability to understand the physics of nature.
>
> > Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> > The material is maether.
> > Maether has mass.
> > Aether and matter have mass.
> > Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether.
> > Aether is displaced by matter.
> > The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'.
> > The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether.
> > Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter.
>
> > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
>
> > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > "According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
> > unthinkable"
>
> > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A.
> > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
> > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
> > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
> > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
> > and matter is energy.
>
> The experiments you have heard about are intellectual dishonesty.
> Science has been making things up and is going to pay for it when it
> is revealed in the future.
>
> Please stoip using it as your source.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

It is the Copenhagen interpretation of what occurs physically in
nature in the experiments which is delusional.

There is a lot of experimental evidence of particles creating
interference patterns in double slit experiments. The interference
patterns build up over time as more and more particles are
individually detected.

'File:Double-slit experiment results Tanamura 2.jpg'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Double-slit_experiment_results_Tanamura_2.jpg

"Summary

Results of a double-slit-experiment performed by Dr. Tonomura showing
the build-up of an interference pattern of single electrons. Numbers
of electrons are 10 (a), 200 (b), 6000 (c), 40000 (d), 140000 (e).

(Provided with kind permission of Dr. Tonomura.)"

The particle travels a single path. The associated aether wave enters
and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference which
alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the wave into
chop) and there is no interference.

The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. The boat enters and exits a
single slit. The bow wave enters and exits multiple slits. The wave
exits the slits and creates interference which alters the direction
the boat travels. Detecting the boat by placing buoys at the exits to
the slits causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e. turns the
wave into chop) and there is no interference.

Why is a C-60 molecule always detected exiting a single slit in a
double slit experiment?

Because the C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit. Duh!