From: Robert Baer on
Once upon a time, a long time ago, there was only analog modems and
nice paper manuals came with them.
Some of those manuals, in the back discussed that for best use, one
should order a specific quality of phone line and disclosed the BELLCO
designation to use when ordering the line.
As i remember it, that designation was something simple like (making
this up) Z9.
I think that the TekCom modem manual at that time was one that gave
that info.
Question: What is that designation?
Thanks.
From: Kevin McMurtrie on
In article <k-adncl-GNqppFPWnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d(a)posted.localnet>,
Robert Baer <robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote:

> Once upon a time, a long time ago, there was only analog modems and
> nice paper manuals came with them.
> Some of those manuals, in the back discussed that for best use, one
> should order a specific quality of phone line and disclosed the BELLCO
> designation to use when ordering the line.
> As i remember it, that designation was something simple like (making
> this up) Z9.
> I think that the TekCom modem manual at that time was one that gave
> that info.
> Question: What is that designation?
> Thanks.

Cat 3 is commonly used for high quality telephone wiring.

POTS is expected to go the way of the dinosaur within the next decade.
I'm ditching it as soon as my Internet gets a bit faster. New homes are
wired with Cat 6 so the phone jacks may carry gigabit ethernet later.
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From: Joel Koltner on
"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote in message
news:4bd06b9a$0$22159$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
> POTS is expected to go the way of the dinosaur within the next decade.

By 2019? I'd put money that -- unless there's a huge government program
similar to the REA -- there are many people in rural areas who are still going
to have POTS *well* past 2019.

Maybe by 2029 though...

That being said... at the Oregon Caves national monument not far from me here,
some vandals cut their POTS lines (that had been in place for decades) last
year. They found it more cost effective to set up a high-speed digital
microwave link rather than repairing the POTS line damage -- which gives them
more phone lines than they had before, as well as fast Internet access.
(Interestingly, they have a really cool lodge pole-style resort there that
purposely doesn't have TVs in the guest rooms... yet they had a little booth
available for a phone-line hookup for dial-up Internet access back around the
turn of the century; I used in back in 2002. Kinda odd that you could check
your e-mail but not watch the nightly news on TV!)

---Joel

From: krw on
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:30:34 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us>
wrote:

>In article <k-adncl-GNqppFPWnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d(a)posted.localnet>,
> Robert Baer <robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time, a long time ago, there was only analog modems and
>> nice paper manuals came with them.
>> Some of those manuals, in the back discussed that for best use, one
>> should order a specific quality of phone line and disclosed the BELLCO
>> designation to use when ordering the line.
>> As i remember it, that designation was something simple like (making
>> this up) Z9.
>> I think that the TekCom modem manual at that time was one that gave
>> that info.
>> Question: What is that designation?
>> Thanks.
>
>Cat 3 is commonly used for high quality telephone wiring.
>
>POTS is expected to go the way of the dinosaur within the next decade.
>I'm ditching it as soon as my Internet gets a bit faster. New homes are
>wired with Cat 6 so the phone jacks may carry gigabit ethernet later.

You're late. I haven't used POTS for six years. I do wish my Internet
connection was from this century, however.
From: Paul Keinanen on
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:34:53 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote in message
>news:4bd06b9a$0$22159$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
>> POTS is expected to go the way of the dinosaur within the next decade.
>
>By 2019? I'd put money that -- unless there's a huge government program
>similar to the REA -- there are many people in rural areas who are still going
>to have POTS *well* past 2019.
>
>Maybe by 2029 though...

The cost of maintaining rural overhead lines is quite high. In
Finland, some operators have been actively dismounting rural overhead
wires. Unfortunately this also makes it impossible to get ADSL
broadband connections and the population in those rural areas have to
live with not so good wireless Internet connections.