Ping Bil Slowman; The global warming hoax reveiled
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From: Bill Sloman on 28 Nov 2009 13:44 On Nov 28, 4:44 am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:07:11 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > > > > > > <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > >On Nov 26, 8:33 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:36:14 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > > >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > >> >It is a pity that I got it wrong. Peer review would probably have > >> >prevented this. > > >> >James Arthur happens to be wrong - his concurrence doesn't create a > >> >concensus, which in practice is confined to the opinions of people who > >> >know what they are talking about. > > >> --- > >> Then nothing you post would lead to the creation of a consensus. > > >Certainly not to a concensus of which you'd form a part. > > --- > I'd certainly keep it from becoming a consensus by showing you up for > the fraud you are. There you go again. I'm not a fraud, but you are too ignorant and dumb to get to grips with the evidnece that makes this obvious to the better equipped. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Jamie on 28 Nov 2009 14:04 Bill Sloman wrote: > On Nov 28, 9:49 am, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>Jon Kirwan wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:17:20 -0800, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> >>>wrote: >> >>>>Jon Kirwan wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:43:33 -0800, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>wrote: >> >>>>>>Jon Kirwan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:03:28 -0800, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote: >> >>>>>>>>Bill Slomanwrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Nov 25, 12:09 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[...] >> >>>>>>>>>>But the glaciers, those will further retreat from Europe, and north of America, >>>>>>>>>>only to come back then later, in thousands of years cycles. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Since we've messed up the positive feedback that drove that cycle and >>>>>>>>>added more than enough CO2 and methane to the atmosphere, the glacier >>>>>>>>>aren't going to be coming back any time soon. >> >>>>>>>>>The shapes and locations ofof the continents will still be pretty much >>>>>>>>>the same. I doubt if the world will look that different. >> >>>>>>>>Ahm, the glacier north of us on Mt.Shasta is growing ... >> >>>>>>>>Maybe it hasn't heard of AGW and someone should tell it :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Joerg, you should know better than to be this highly selective in what >>>>>>>you consider a good argument. Read this USA Today article from a year >>>>>>>and a half ago more closely: >> >>>>>>>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/environment/2008-07-08-mt-shasta... >>>>>> >>>>>>Only problem is that the proof doesn't seem to be in the pudding: >> >>>>>>http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMONtpre.pl?ca5983 >>>>> >>>>>Did you read through at least half the article I mentioned above? >>>> >>>>Yes. Thing is, with all the AGW claims there ought to be a significant >>>>average rise since 1948. > > > <snip> > >>I am not disputing that. As I wrote in my reply to Bill, there are >>glaciers in Europe that are going almost totally bare. What the >>warmingists don't seem to grasp or sometimes deny tooth and nail is that >>this is quite normal. A few thousand years ago they wear also iceless or >>nearly iceless, as evidence by the findings of ancient weaponry, shoes, >>coins, and the typical litter that unfortunately always happens along >>major thoroughfares. They must have lacked an "Adopt-a-Highway" program >>back then ;-) >> >>Since they found Roman coins there the last warm period without ice on >>the glacier cannot have been be that long ago: >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7580294.stm > > > The Holocene thermal maximum occured some thousands of years ago > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum > > The current inter-glacial had clearly clearly passed its peak before > we started burning fossil carbon, and we were heading for another ice > age, which the current spot of anthropogenic global warming does seem > to have put off. > > This is a good thing, but we need to take care that we don't end up > with much too much of a good thing. > > <snip> > > -- > Bill Sloman, Nijmegen Details, Details... Why worry so much now.. They got people so wound up over the 2012 Dec, event coming, it's the end of the world! So they have depict it that way! Major solar activity. Planets and the milky way aligning! Something that only happens every 26k years or so. Causing torsion waves! yes, you heard it!.. And not let us forget: Planet X doing a 2 month tour near us. And something about an asteroid if I remember? All taking place about the same time I guess! If that don't put a cramp in your style, nothing else will! So, why worry about some ice! unless it's in your drink!
From: JosephKK on 28 Nov 2009 15:43 On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:17:53 -0800, Rich Grise <richgrise(a)example.net> wrote: >On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:37:00 -0800, dagmargoodboat wrote: >> On Nov 26, 1:18 pm, John Larkin >>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:41:26 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com >>> >On Nov 26, 6:26 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >> On a sunny day (Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:46:50 -0800) it happened John >>> >> Larkin <jjSNIPlar...(a)highTHISlandtechnology.com> wrote in >>> >> >On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:59:25 -0800, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> >>> >> >>Bill Sloman wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> You live in Oregon. Here is a web site that gives the locations >>> >> >>> of potentially active volcanoes in your state. >>> >>> >> >>>http://www.nationalatlas.gov/dynamic/dyn_vol-or.html >>> >>> >> >>> I'd suggest that if you are worried by potential sources of >>> >> >>> danger under your feet, you should pack up and move to >>> >> >>> Barendrecht immediately. >>> >>> >> >>>http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences/five-worst-volcanic-disasters-in.... >>> >>> >> >>I live in Northern California, about 35 miles east of Sacramento. >>> >> >>And I am rather unafraid of volcanos, earthquakes and fires versus >>> >> >>some "grand" ideas of man to "solve" a perceived crisis. >>> >>> >> >Listen up, Joerg. If Sloman says you live in Oregon, you live in >>> >> >Oregon. It's a peer-reviewed fact. >>> >>> >> Yes, exactly, that is real science. >>> >>> >I also strongly insist that Joerg lives in Oregon, therefore, not only >>> >is it a peer-reviewed fact, but there's also a consensus. >>> >>> I have just run a simulation that proves that Joerg lives in Oregon. >>> >>> There can be no more doubt. >> >> After applying the appropriate correction factors, I too find that Joerg >> lives in Oregon. >> >> So, now we have independent confirmation. > >I used to live in northern California, and what Joerg describes isn't >anything like where I was, so, I now have Faith that he lives in Oregon. > >;-) >Rich Gosh, i used to be able to reach his place within 45 minutes drive. It is about 2 hours now. 88*)))
From: Joerg on 28 Nov 2009 15:54 Bill Sloman wrote: > On Nov 27, 5:46 pm, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Bill Slomanwrote: >>> On Nov 27, 2:17 pm, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> Jon Kirwan wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:43:33 -0800, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Jon Kirwan wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:03:28 -0800, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Bill Slomanwrote: >>>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 12:09 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> [...] >>>> As you said, climate is averages, but we must look much, much farther >>>> than just 50, 100 or 150 years. As has been discussed here before, there >>>> has for example been homesteading and farming in areas of Greenland that >>>> are now under a thick layer of ice. Of course that is an inconvenient >>>> truth for warmingists. Bill might claim that Exxon-Mobil has gone there >>>> in the dead of night, drilled holes, dropped some Viking tools and >>>> artefacts down those holes and then poured water back into them :-) >>> No. The areas that that the Vikings farmsteaded during the Medieval >>> Warm Period have never been coverd with thick ice. You can still see >>> the walls of their church at Hvalsey >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Greenland >>> There are suggestions that the Viking settlement wasn't so much frozen >>> out as out-performed by the Inuit when they got there - the Inuit had >>> better boats, better fishing techniques, better hunting techniques and >>> warmer clothing, and the Vikings couldn't live on what the Inuit left >>> over. >> Sure you can pick a church near the coast which was always free of ice >> but other areas weren't. > > Identify one. The settlement was not lost because it was inundated > with ice, but because the weather got just a little too cold to allow > the Vikings to harvest enough food to keep them going. > http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/ice/lec19/holocene.htm Quote "Fjallsj�kull, an outlet glacier of Vatnaj�kull ice cap on the southeastern coast of Iceland. Advance of this glacier in the 1695-1710 period destroyed a farm that dated from Viking settlement. Photo date 8/94; � by J.S. Aber." AFAIR that settlement dates back to about 900 and was discovered by a guy named Bardarson (spelling could be off a bit). When the chimney flue is plugged because the house is covered by a glacier it's time to move on ;-) Another Viking farm (Eyrarhorn, probably spelled with Norwegian letters) became submerged because the growing weight of the ice sheet pushed the land under. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: JosephKK on 28 Nov 2009 16:23
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:13:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On a sunny day (Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:59:29 -0800) it happened Rich Grise ><richgrise(a)example.net> wrote in <pan.2009.11.25.16.59.25.64076(a)example.net>: > >>Not to mention that the warming cycles PRECEDE the elevations in CO2 >>levels. This is pretty obvious, when you consider that cold water can hold >>more CO2 in solution than warm water can. >> >>But Bill has faith, which trumps facts, like this inconvenient one: >>http://www.infowars.com/al-gore-admits-co2-does-not-cause-majority-of-global-warming/ >> >>Cheers! >>Rich > >Gore should be locked up. Naw, just put him in series with the electric line to his house, just after pumping the all the jet fuel he used flying around promoting his books through his alimentary tract. Should make quite the satisfactory explosion. |