From: Bill Sloman on
On Nov 28, 3:58 am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:38:11 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Nov 27, 2:44 am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:18:18 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 26, 7:35 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On a sunny day (Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:07:13 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sloman
> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote in
> >> >> <6e3552a1-ae05-4a2c-835f-9f245f6d0...(a)m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>:
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> >> >> >> Without the [fossile] energy companies there would be no media, no energy=
> >> >> >,
> >> >> >> as your car does not run on electricity (yet).
> >> >> >> Without those machines, used to build cities, roads, transport goods, the=
> >> >> >re would be no civilisation
> >> >> >> and not even internet, and no printing material, no paper, some paper man=
> >> >> >ufacturers have their own power plants.
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> >> >> >And if we keep on digging up fossil carbon and burning it, all these
> >> >> >nice things will go away again.
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> >> >> >> Been there.
> >> >> >> Now wake up from your green dreams.
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> >> >> >An ironic appeal, since it comes from someone who clearly doesn't know
> >> >> >what he is talking about.
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> >> >> mm, why do you say that of everybody except your comic book scientists?
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> >> >I don't say it about everybody, but there are a number of people who
> >> >post here on subjects that they know very little about, and they quite
> >> >often post total nonsense.
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> >> ---
> >> Like about being able to extract energy from a varying magnetic field
> >> surrounding a conductor by wrapping a solenoid around the conductor?
>
> >Joel Koltner was making a joke. The smiley should have told you that.
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> ---
> He wasn't making a joke, he was being humorous in his presentation, you
> wretch.
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> But, whether he was making a joke or not is immaterial, since I _proved_
> my point by experimentation and presented the data and method for anyone
> who cared to replicate the experiment to do so.

Few people are so lacking in a sense of proportion that they'd bother.

<snipped the rest of the rant>

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Bill Sloman on
On Nov 28, 4:19 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:44:15 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Nov 28, 4:44 am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:07:11 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 26, 8:33 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:36:14 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >> >> >It is a pity that I got it wrong. Peer review would probably have
> >> >> >prevented this.
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> >> >> >James Arthur happens to be wrong - his concurrence doesn't create a
> >> >> >concensus, which in practice is confined to the opinions of people who
> >> >> >know what they are talking about.
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> >> >> ---
> >> >> Then nothing you post would lead to the creation of a consensus.
>
> >> >Certainly not to a concensus of which you'd form a part.
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> >> ---
> >> I'd certainly keep it from becoming a consensus by showing you up for
> >> the fraud you are.
>
> >There you go again. I'm not a fraud, but you are too ignorant and dumb
> >to get to grips with the evidnece that makes this obvious to the
> >better equipped.
>
> ---
> As is typical with frauds, instead of honestly addressing the issues
> causing contention, trying to resolve them amicably, and taking your
> lumps when you deserve them, you resort to invective in order to try to
> silence your critics.

John Fields has learned the word 'amicable". It is sad that he shows
no evidence of knowing what it means.

<snipped the usual rubbish>

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Jim Thompson on
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:27:21 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

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>JosephKK wrote:
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>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
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>> > It was 34 degrees in Ocala Thursday night. It's supposed to be 35
>> >tonight.
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>> From the short time i spent in Florida that is about 10 to 15 degrees
>> below normal for this time of year.
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>
> I've had to turn the heat on the last two days. That doesn't usually
>happen till near the end of December.

The ice still hasn't melted in my beer/wine tub from Thursday ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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From: dagmargoodboat on
On Nov 28, 1:40 pm, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 4:33 pm, John Larkin
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> <jjSNIPlar...(a)highTHISlandtechnology.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:25:02 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> > <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> > >On Nov 27, 9:44 am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> On Nov 27, 11:48 am, John Larkin
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> > >> <jjSNIPlar...(a)highTHISlandtechnology.com> wrote:
> > >> > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:07:11 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> > >> > <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> > >> > >On Nov 26, 8:33 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:36:14 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> > >> > >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> > >> > >> >It is a pity that I got it wrong. Peer review would probably have
> > >> > >> >prevented this.
>
> > >> > >> >James Arthur happens to be wrong - his concurrence doesn't create a
> > >> > >> >concensus, which in practice is confined to the opinions of people who
> > >> > >> >know what they are talking about.
>
> > >> > >> ---
> > >> > >> Then nothing you post would lead to the creation of a consensus..
>
> > >> > >Certainly not to a concensus of which you'd form a part.
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> > >> >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870349940457455963038204...
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> > >> > John
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> > >> Spot-on.
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> > >Anything but. The journalist is treating a highly necessary bit of
> > >quality control as "suppresion of dissent". If they'd done theri job
> > >properly, they'd have found this out.
>
> > Threatening journal editors is "quality control"?
>
> They weren't threatening him, they were getting him fired
> forpublishing  what was - at the very least - outrageously poor work.
>
> He'd published a very poor paper, bad enough to provoke three memebers
> of the editorial board into resigning.
>
> When the dust settled, one of the board members who had resigned came
> back as the new editor.
>
> Ravinghorde and his fellow conspiracy theorists want to see this as
> the scandalous ejection of an editor who was brave enough to publish a
> dissenting paper, but they can't be bothered to produce the paper and
> explain why it provoked such an intense response when the people who
> published Lindzen's dissenting papers have got off scot-free.
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

This (above) is why many serious scientists dare not voice contrary
opinions--they'd get lynched, and they know it.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
From: Bill Sloman on
On Nov 28, 4:24 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...(a)My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:19:17 -0600, John Fields
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> <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:44:15 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
> ><bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
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> >>On Nov 28, 4:44 am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:07:11 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> >>> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >>> >On Nov 26, 8:33 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >>> >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:36:14 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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> >>> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >>> >> >It is a pity that I got it wrong. Peer review would probably have
> >>> >> >prevented this.
>
> >>> >> >James Arthur happens to be wrong - his concurrence doesn't create a
> >>> >> >concensus, which in practice is confined to the opinions of people who
> >>> >> >know what they are talking about.
>
> >>> >> ---
> >>> >> Then nothing you post would lead to the creation of a consensus.
>
> >>> >Certainly not to a concensus of which you'd form a part.
>
> >>> ---
> >>> I'd certainly keep it from becoming a consensus by showing you up for
> >>> the fraud you are.
>
> >>There you go again. I'm not a fraud, but you are too ignorant and dumb
> >>to get to grips with the evidnece that makes this obvious to the
> >>better equipped.
>
> >---
> >As is typical with frauds, instead of honestly addressing the issues
> >causing contention, trying to resolve them amicably, and taking your
> >lumps when you deserve them, you resort to invective in order to try to
> >silence your critics.
>
> >A cowardly practice, at best, and exactly what one would expect of a
> >"scientist"  who pretends to be clad in shining armor.
>
> >This says it best, I think...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja7cuVh96AI&feature=related
>
> >I'm in for a penny and I can afford a pound or two, so let's talk a
> >little about why you proposed that energy can be extracted from the
> >magnetic field surrounding a conductor carrying an alternating current
> >by wrapping a solenoid around it.
>
> >Can it be done when the axis of the solenoid is congruent with the axis
> >of the conductor?  
>
> >The ball's in your court and, unlike you, the better equipped of us know
> >how to speel and  don't write "evidnece"
> >JF
>
> Most fraudulent scientists are smart enough to slink quietly away when
> their fraud is discovered.  Slowman has no such IQ.

Jim Thompson and John Fields both think that I'm a fraud. This is - of
course - a devastating blow to my self-esteem, since I've always had
such a high opinion of their judgement, but somehow I guess I'll learn
to live with this public humiliation.

But I guess I'll stick around until they get around to telling us
which of my hypothetical frauds they have discovered.

This may take a while.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen