From: Jan Panteltje on
The global warming hoax revealed:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

<Quote from that article>
This shows these are people willing to bend rules and
go after other people's reputations in very serious ways,' he said. Spencer
R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research
on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as 'great material
for historians.'
<end quote>

LOL.
Some science!

And that in a leftist newspaper!

From: dagmargoodboat on
On Nov 21, 6:54 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> The global warming hoax revealed:
>  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?partne....
>
> <Quote from that article>
> This shows these are people willing to bend rules and
> go after other people's reputations in very serious ways,' he said. Spencer
> R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research
> on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as 'great material
> for historians.'
> <end quote>
>
> LOL.
> Some science!
>
> And that in a leftist newspaper!

Summary:
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/the-telegraph-picks-up-on-the-hadley-cru-story/

Details:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/#more-12937
From: Bill Sloman on
On Nov 21, 2:53 pm, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> On Nov 21, 6:54 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The global warming hoax revealed:
> >  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?partne...
>
> > <Quote from that article>
> > This shows these are people willing to bend rules and
> > go after other people's reputations in very serious ways,' he said. Spencer
> > R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research
> > on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as 'great material
> > for historians.'
> > <end quote>
>
> > LOL.
> > Some science!
>
> > And that in a leftist newspaper!
>
> Summary:http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/the-telegraph-picks-up-...
>
> Details:http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-...

It all depends on your point of view. The leaked e-mails are obviously
open to negative interpretation, and doctorbulldog.wordpress,com is
delivering negative interpretations with enthusiasm.

Their reactions to the distress felt at Hadley about the downfall of
the journal "Climate Research" which has apparently fallen into the
hands of a denialist editor are typical.

Denialist editors have published some very poor papers in the past,
completely skipping peer review in their enthusiasm to get the paper
into the literature (and presumably to collect their bribe from Exxon-
Mobil or some other interested party). Academics intensely dislike
this kind of behaviour which devalues their published work, while
denialist journalists routinely claim that all academics behave like
this, and so docotrbulldogs commentators are predictably
misinterpreting Hadley's distress to imply that previous editor had
been pro-AWG in the same unscrupulous way.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Raveninghorde on
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:53:00 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com
wrote:

>On Nov 21, 6:54�am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The global warming hoax revealed:
>> �http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?partne...
>>
>> <Quote from that article>
>> This shows these are people willing to bend rules and
>> go after other people's reputations in very serious ways,' he said. Spencer
>> R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research
>> on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as 'great material
>> for historians.'
>> <end quote>
>>
>> LOL.
>> Some science!
>>
>> And that in a leftist newspaper!
>
>Summary:
>http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/the-telegraph-picks-up-on-the-hadley-cru-story/
>
>Details:
>http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/#more-12937


And a search engine for CRU emails

www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/
From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:01:43 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote in
<9641cb0f-e096-4fd7-acac-7c555184d674(a)e23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> > And that in a leftist newspaper!
>>
>> Summary:http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/the-telegraph-picks=
>-up-...
>>
>> Details:http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-=
>cru-...
>
>It all depends on your point of view. The leaked e-mails are obviously
>open to negative interpretation, and doctorbulldog.wordpress,com is
>delivering negative interpretations with enthusiasm.
>
>Their reactions to the distress felt at Hadley about the downfall of
>the journal "Climate Research" which has apparently fallen into the
>hands of a denialist editor are typical.
>
>Denialist editors have published some very poor papers in the past,
>completely skipping peer review in their enthusiasm to get the paper
>into the literature (and presumably to collect their bribe from Exxon-
>Mobil or some other interested party). Academics intensely dislike
>this kind of behaviour which devalues their published work, while
>denialist journalists routinely claim that all academics behave like
>this, and so docotrbulldogs commentators are predictably
>misinterpreting Hadley's distress to imply that previous editor had
>been pro-AWG in the same unscrupulous way.

That is certainly an aspect, and a normal reaction from those scientists.
but there is a lot more then that, especially showing how weak and manipulated their data really is.
Ice bears falling from the sky?
Public [opinion] manipulation at its worst.
One can wonder what the real truth is, about temperature, and then again about
what causes it, you know there were, and will be, ice ages, nobody
was having coal plants in the previous one to create CO2 (in the Netherlands they now want to store the CO2
in the ground under my house almost), so, all feeble science.
Sure the oil industry will *perhaps* pull some strings, maybe they even had that uni's server hacked,
but fact remains those cycles in climate have always been there, and we better
have the energy sources to keep us cool or warm, and do away with the for profit global warming hype.
Global warming is becoming almost a religion, where any objective look at it is considered 'evil'.
Al Gore should be locked up.