From: Jim Thompson on 2 Dec 2009 11:02 On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:57:13 -0600, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 01:22:27 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman ><bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote: > >>On Nov 27, 2:44�am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >>> >>> >I don't say it about everybody, but there are a number of people who >>> >post here on subjects that they know very little about, and they quite >>> >often post total nonsense. >>> >>> --- >>> Like about being able to extract energy from a varying magnetic field >>> surrounding a conductor by wrapping a solenoid around the conductor? >> >>A subject on which you have posted a lot of nonsense. You did take >>that joke seriously, as if there was some doubt that it was a joke, >>and since then you have been wasting bandwidth trying to to claim that >>my treating it as a joke meant that I didn't understand that it was >>joke. >> >>One expects puppies to chase their own tails, but it is unusual to see >>an adult so wound up in his own misconceptions. > >--- >Indeed, and now that you've been shown that a solenoid won't work in the >way you originally thought it did, you should be wagging your tail >instead of chasing it. > >JF I'm puzzled! Is there some orgasmic result from feeding trolls? If not, WHY do you keep doing it? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
From: Bill Sloman on 2 Dec 2009 11:10 On Dec 1, 5:29 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:17:00 -0800, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > >On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:41:47 -0600, John Fields > ><jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > > >>On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:27:20 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > >><bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > > >So you have demonstrated what Bill is to your satisfaction. Well and > >good. > > >Could you now just ignore him, even you are getting frustrated with > >the way his evasions waste everybody's time. > > --- > Yes, you're right. > > The points I made were valid The claim his said I was making is entirely his own invention. >and my science was clean, Since he invented the claim he wanted to disagree with, it ought to have been. >no matter how he > chooses to rail on, so it's time to disengage. He's finally realised that he has been talking to himself, at ridiculous length, and now he is putting a brave face on slinking back into his box. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Bill Sloman on 2 Dec 2009 11:19 On Dec 2, 3:06 am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:37:32 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > > > > > > <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > >On Dec 1, 3:27 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:40:28 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > > >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > >> >On Nov 30, 3:37 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:34:39 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > > >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > > >> ><snipped the usual pleasantries> > > >> >> Hardly, since the experiment was done in order to show you (I even > >> >> emailed it to you, remember, since for some reason you can't access > >> >> abse?) that you were wrong about being able to extract energy from the > >> >> varying magnetic field surrounding a conductor by wrapping a solenoid > >> >> around it. > > >> >The solenoid was entirely your idea. A clamp-on meter - which is what > >> >I was talking about - isn't a solenoid, but a toroidal transformer > >> >core which can be opened and closed. The output power - such as it is > >> >- is extracted from a second wiinding wrapped around part of that > >> >core. > > >> >This creates a perfectly conventional transformer with a single-turn > >> >primary - one of the power companies active lines runs inside the > >> >toroid, and the rest run outside, forming a rather loosely wound > >> >single turn. > > >> >You didn't understand this and got excited and ran your "experiment" > >> >with a solenoid and a bunch of wires - a configuration that has > >> >nothing to do with clamp-on meters > > >> --- > >> I see you _still_ don't understand the experiment. > > >I understand it well enough. You had a solenoid and bunch of wires and > >you wanted to play with them. > > --- > Ah, I see. > > You really _did_ finally understand the experiment and now you're just > trying to do damage control by clipping the part that shows you had no > clue that a passive clamp-on ammeter uses a toroidal transformer for the > sensor. > > Here's the part you clipped: Your whole campaign seems to be based on things that I didn't say, rather than anything I said. You have concocted this fantasy where I'm supposed to have taken you seriously, and my failure to respond to your carry-on is supposed to have been based on some lack of understanding on my part, rather than a very clear understanding that John Fields had got another bee in his bonnet and needed to be jeered at. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Jan Panteltje on 2 Dec 2009 11:29 On a sunny day (Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:03:57 -0800) it happened John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in <5a0dh59m47e9og9983fn9316ckrni4jrqt(a)4ax.com>: >On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:54:05 GMT, Jan Panteltje ><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>The global warming hoax revealed: >> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss >> >><Quote from that article> >>This shows these are people willing to bend rules and >>go after other people's reputations in very serious ways,' he said. Spencer >>R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research >>on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as 'great material >>for historians.' >><end quote> >> >>LOL. >>Some science! >> >>And that in a leftist newspaper! >> > > >537 posts in this thread so far, many over 400 lines, mostly written >by people who aren't very good with electronics. > >Get a life, guys. You'll never be good climatologists. If you work at >it, you may aspire to being passable circuit designers. > >John So spoke the great master circuit plumber _)
From: John Larkin on 2 Dec 2009 12:03
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:29:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On a sunny day (Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:03:57 -0800) it happened John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in ><5a0dh59m47e9og9983fn9316ckrni4jrqt(a)4ax.com>: > >>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:54:05 GMT, Jan Panteltje >><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>The global warming hoax revealed: >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss >>> >>><Quote from that article> >>>This shows these are people willing to bend rules and >>>go after other people's reputations in very serious ways,' he said. Spencer >>>R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research >>>on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as 'great material >>>for historians.' >>><end quote> >>> >>>LOL. >>>Some science! >>> >>>And that in a leftist newspaper! >>> >> >> >>537 posts in this thread so far, many over 400 lines, mostly written >>by people who aren't very good with electronics. >> >>Get a life, guys. You'll never be good climatologists. If you work at >>it, you may aspire to being passable circuit designers. >> >>John > >So spoke the great master circuit plumber _) in sci.electronics.design John |