From: Jim Thompson on
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:57:13 -0600, John Fields
<jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 01:22:27 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
><bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 27, 2:44�am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I don't say it about everybody, but there are a number of people who
>>> >post here on subjects that they know very little about, and they quite
>>> >often post total nonsense.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Like about being able to extract energy from a varying magnetic field
>>> surrounding a conductor by wrapping a solenoid around the conductor?
>>
>>A subject on which you have posted a lot of nonsense. You did take
>>that joke seriously, as if there was some doubt that it was a joke,
>>and since then you have been wasting bandwidth trying to to claim that
>>my treating it as a joke meant that I didn't understand that it was
>>joke.
>>
>>One expects puppies to chase their own tails, but it is unusual to see
>>an adult so wound up in his own misconceptions.
>
>---
>Indeed, and now that you've been shown that a solenoid won't work in the
>way you originally thought it did, you should be wagging your tail
>instead of chasing it.
>
>JF

I'm puzzled!
Is there some orgasmic result from feeding trolls?
If not, WHY do you keep doing it?

...Jim Thompson
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From: Bill Sloman on
On Dec 1, 5:29 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:17:00 -0800, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:41:47 -0600, John Fields
> ><jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:27:20 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
> >><bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >So you have demonstrated what Bill is to your satisfaction.  Well and
> >good.
>
> >Could you now just ignore him, even you are getting frustrated with
> >the way his evasions waste everybody's time.
>
> ---
> Yes, you're right.
>
> The points I made were valid

The claim his said I was making is entirely his own invention.

>and my science was clean,

Since he invented the claim he wanted to disagree with, it ought to
have been.

>no matter how he
> chooses to rail on, so it's time to disengage.

He's finally realised that he has been talking to himself, at
ridiculous length, and now he is putting a brave face on slinking back
into his box.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Bill Sloman on
On Dec 2, 3:06 am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:37:32 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
>
>
>
>
> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Dec 1, 3:27 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:40:28 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 30, 3:37 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:34:39 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >> ><snipped the usual pleasantries>
>
> >> >> Hardly, since the experiment was done in order to show you (I even
> >> >> emailed it to you, remember, since for some reason you can't access
> >> >> abse?) that you were wrong about being able to extract energy from the
> >> >> varying magnetic field surrounding a conductor by wrapping a solenoid
> >> >> around it.
>
> >> >The solenoid was entirely your idea. A clamp-on meter - which is what
> >> >I was talking about - isn't a solenoid, but a toroidal transformer
> >> >core which can be opened and closed. The output power - such as it is
> >> >- is extracted from a second wiinding wrapped around part of that
> >> >core.
>
> >> >This  creates a perfectly conventional transformer with a single-turn
> >> >primary - one of the power companies active lines runs inside the
> >> >toroid, and the rest run outside, forming a rather loosely wound
> >> >single turn.
>
> >> >You didn't understand  this and got excited and ran your "experiment"
> >> >with a solenoid and a bunch of wires - a configuration that has
> >> >nothing to do with clamp-on meters
>
> >> ---
> >> I see you _still_ don't understand the experiment.
>
> >I understand it well enough. You had a solenoid and bunch of wires and
> >you wanted to play with them.
>
> ---
> Ah, I see.
>
> You really _did_ finally understand the experiment and now you're just
> trying to do damage control by clipping the part that shows you had no
> clue that a passive clamp-on ammeter uses a toroidal transformer for the
> sensor.
>
> Here's the part you clipped:

Your whole campaign seems to be based on things that I didn't say,
rather than anything I said. You have concocted this fantasy where I'm
supposed to have taken you seriously, and my failure to respond to
your carry-on is supposed to have been based on some lack of
understanding on my part, rather than a very clear understanding that
John Fields had got another bee in his bonnet and needed to be jeered
at.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:03:57 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
<5a0dh59m47e9og9983fn9316ckrni4jrqt(a)4ax.com>:

>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:54:05 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>The global warming hoax revealed:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
>>
>><Quote from that article>
>>This shows these are people willing to bend rules and
>>go after other people's reputations in very serious ways,' he said. Spencer
>>R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research
>>on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as 'great material
>>for historians.'
>><end quote>
>>
>>LOL.
>>Some science!
>>
>>And that in a leftist newspaper!
>>
>
>
>537 posts in this thread so far, many over 400 lines, mostly written
>by people who aren't very good with electronics.
>
>Get a life, guys. You'll never be good climatologists. If you work at
>it, you may aspire to being passable circuit designers.
>
>John

So spoke the great master circuit plumber _)
From: John Larkin on
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:29:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:03:57 -0800) it happened John Larkin
><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
><5a0dh59m47e9og9983fn9316ckrni4jrqt(a)4ax.com>:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:54:05 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The global warming hoax revealed:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
>>>
>>><Quote from that article>
>>>This shows these are people willing to bend rules and
>>>go after other people's reputations in very serious ways,' he said. Spencer
>>>R. Weart, a physicist and historian who is charting the course of research
>>>on global warming, said the hacked material would serve as 'great material
>>>for historians.'
>>><end quote>
>>>
>>>LOL.
>>>Some science!
>>>
>>>And that in a leftist newspaper!
>>>
>>
>>
>>537 posts in this thread so far, many over 400 lines, mostly written
>>by people who aren't very good with electronics.
>>
>>Get a life, guys. You'll never be good climatologists. If you work at
>>it, you may aspire to being passable circuit designers.
>>
>>John
>
>So spoke the great master circuit plumber _)

in sci.electronics.design

John