From: John A. on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:30:37 +0000 (UTC), Ray
<vortren-newsx(a)yaxhoo.com.invalid> wrote:

>John A. <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I'm currently looking for a good tagging organizer that uses (or can
>> be configured to use) an external index rather than embedding tags in
>> image files. I like DigiKam (via KDE on Windows) but the function to
>> launch images with external programs can't seem to handle spaces in
>> directory names (which pretty much kills it since most programs
>> install somewhere under "Program Files".)
>
>Try using the old-format name, PROGRA~1, instead of "Program Files".
>Or you could use SUBST to assign a drive letter to the Program Files
>folder.

Tried the former, also the quote trick, but not the latter.

If the update doesn't fix it I'll give it a shot, though lots of its
subdirectories also have spaces.

(Ya know, they've had spaces in Windows file & directory names for
over a decade and a half now. You'd think folks would have a handle on
that by now.)
From: Savageduck on
On 2010-02-23 12:11:52 -0800, Alan Lichtenstein <arl(a)erols.com> said:

> nospam wrote:
>> In article <4b8430f1$0$22546$607ed4bc(a)cv.net>, Alan Lichtenstein
>> <arl(a)erols.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have iPhoto on my computer, and it does OK, but I'm looking for
>>> something that does a bit more processing than what I already have.
>>
>>
>> what do you want to do that you find it limiting?
>
> I was hoping for a between white balance adjustment as well as
> something that would permit me to edit individual colors rather than
> the entire photograph. Also, something that had someHDR merge
> capabilities, in a limited way. Although I am not competent in that, I
> would like to begin experimenting.
>
>>> Based on the discussion so far, I feel that something like GIMP may not
>>> be good for me, based on my needs and the lack of support. But I thank
>>> everyone who recommended it anyway. I don't mind spending a few
>>> dollars, although Photoshop CS3 or 4 IS a bit much right now.
>>
>>
>> you don't need the full photoshop. photoshop elements is around $50.
>
> You would not recommend, lightroom or aperture? They're a bit more
> expensive, but is it worth the difference at this point?

All GIMP arguments aside. Go with Photoshop Elements, it will give you
considerably better editing and adjustment ability than iPhoto.
For HDR get Photomatix Pro, it seems you can afford it.
Once you are certain you can justify purchasing a program such as
Lightroom or Aperture, I would go with Lightroom as it will integrate
better with Elements and Photomatix than Aperture.

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Regards,

Savageduck

From: ray on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:37:05 -0500, nospam wrote:

> In article <82f59$4b843a35$546accd9$23370(a)cache80.multikabel.net>,
> Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap(a)arumes.com> wrote:
>
>> In which way do you find support for GIMP lacking?
>
> you said it yourself, no books, no support forums, no tutorials, etc.

Beginning GIMP is a readily available BOOK as is Sam's 'Teach Yourself
GIMP in 24 Hours' and a host of others, Grokking the Gimp is a nice
online TUTORIAL - support forum - see www.gimptalk.com/forum - there are
probably others.
From: Robert Spanjaard on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:54:51 -0500, John A. wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:30:37 +0000 (UTC), Ray
> <vortren-newsx(a)yaxhoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>John A. <john(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm currently looking for a good tagging organizer that uses (or can
>>> be configured to use) an external index rather than embedding tags in
>>> image files. I like DigiKam (via KDE on Windows) but the function to
>>> launch images with external programs can't seem to handle spaces in
>>> directory names (which pretty much kills it since most programs
>>> install somewhere under "Program Files".)
>>
>>Try using the old-format name, PROGRA~1, instead of "Program Files". Or
>>you could use SUBST to assign a drive letter to the Program Files
>>folder.
>
> Tried the former, also the quote trick, but not the latter.
>
> If the update doesn't fix it I'll give it a shot, though lots of its
> subdirectories also have spaces.
>
> (Ya know, they've had spaces in Windows file & directory names for over
> a decade and a half now. You'd think folks would have a handle on that
> by now.)

Doesn't Windows have some kind of escape character to use spaces (and
other special characters) in filenames?

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Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com
From: Savageduck on
On 2010-02-23 12:39:26 -0800, Alan Lichtenstein <arl(a)erols.com> said:

> nospam wrote:
>
>> In article <4b843709$0$22523$607ed4bc(a)cv.net>, Alan Lichtenstein
>> <arl(a)erols.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You would not recommend, lightroom or aperture? They're a bit more
>>> expensive, but is it worth the difference at this point?
>>
>>
>> that depends what you need to do. lightroom & aperture combine asset
>> management with most of the adjustments people need to do, as well as
>> generate web sites, books, etc. while photoshop can do pretty much any
>> image editing you could ever want, but not so much on the other
>> features.
>
> I would prefer a better asset management program than what I have. I
> also understand that both of these programs have a rudimentary ability
> to deal with HDR, which intrigues me, despite the fact that my learning
> curve at this time does not permit me take advantage of that. Perhaps
> someday.

Lightroom and Aperture do not have any ability to deal with HDR without
a supplementary plugin, such as Photomatix Pro, which is also a
standalone program.
>
> since in my case, the increased expense is not a problem, would you
> recommend either of those programs or elements? I would prefer not to
> purchase something only to have to make frequent upgrades. While I
> understand that upgrading is part of the process, if one could be
> eliminated early on, it would be preferable.

Again, my recommendation is Elements + Lightroom, and Photomatix Pro for HDR.
As you have noted, upgrading is part of the process.

>
> Could I manage either of those programs in a learning curve?

Yes. Easily.
>
> Your opinion.


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Regards,

Savageduck